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We'll compare these two teams' talent levels based on officially released two-deep depth charts. Depth charts for both teams were attained DIRECTLY from the Clemson website (www.clemsontigers.com). A pdf version of this can be found there as well. I will go ahead and tell you that because of injuries and depth chart adjustments between the release of this information and game time, some items here may be a little out of place but in an effort to maintain consistency, I'll use both teams' depth charts as presented on the official website.
We should not have to tell you this, but some folks debate what to take from these articles. We expect you, the reader, to form an opinion of your own. Often we will give you our take on things, but you should independently form your own thoughts based on information out there. This article shows recruiting data for the depth chart roster as referenced above. It does not weigh experience nor does it evaluate coaching, preparation, etc... We think this is an interesting and valuable tool that is useful in overall program evaluation because there is a link between these star ratings and other metrics in both college football and the NFL.
Keep in mind as you look through this data that only players who were officially signed were given a "Star Rating". Players who were not signed could not be quantitatively assessed a recruiting rating. Such players get a "NA" rating and were not included in the averaged data. Again, all data was attained from www.Scout.com and www.Rivals.com. Players whose Scout/Rivals data was not available but were signed were assigned a "NR". We picked carefully through the data and believe all is correct. However, if we've overlooked an item we apologize in advance and ask that you point it out so that we can make the correction in our database.
The figure and first table both show an average of offensive players, defensive players, and specialist listed on the two-deep roster. The second through fourth tables show the two-deep roster used for analysis along with the recruiting ratings for each player on the roster.
This week's comparison differs greatly from previous weeks as our Tigers are pretty much blanketed on all fronts when we compare recruited talent with the Seminoles. Florida State is over a half star per two-deep player better than Clemson on both offense and defense and hold a 0.6 stars per player advantage on special teams. The data can be seen below but the highlights for the Seminoles includes approx. Three and three quarters stars per player on offense and an even four star per player average for the FSU defense. If you assume that the recruiting experts' opinions are important, this team and coaching staff has definitely recruited a boatload of talent over the past couple years.
Team | Recruiting Service | Offense | Defense | Specialists | Overall Average |
Clemson | Scout | 3.21 | 3.32 | 3.00 | 3.21 |
Rivals | 3.21 | 3.55 | 2.70 | 3.25 | |
Average | 3.21 | 3.43 | 2.85 | 3.23 | |
Florida State | Scout | 3.80 | 4.00 | 3.50 | 3.83 |
Rivals | 3.73 | 4.00 | 3.40 | 3.79 | |
Average | 3.76 | 4.00 | 3.45 | 3.81 |
Offense
Clemson Offense | Florida State Offense | |||||||||||||||
Pos. | # | Player | Hgt | Wgt | Cl. | Scout | Rivals | Pos. | # | Player | Hgt | Wgt | Cl. | Scout | Rivals | |
LT | 63 | BRANDON THOMAS | 6-3 | 315 | *Gr. | 4 | 4 | LT | 75 | CAMERON ERVING | 6-6 | 320 | *Jr. | 3 | 3 | |
79 | Isaiah Battle | 6-7 | 275 | So. | 3 | 3 | 74 | Jonathan Wallace | 6-7 | 295 | *Sr. | N/A | N/A | |||
LG | 67 | KALON DAVIS | 6-5 | 340 | *Jr. | 3 | 3 | LG | 70 | JOSUE MATIAS | 6-6 | 322 | Jr. | 4 | 4 | |
68 | David Beasley | 6-4 | 320 | *Jr. | 3 | 3 | 53 | Sterling Lovelady | 6-3 | 291 | Jr. | 3 | 3 | |||
C | 58 | RYAN NORTON | 6-3 | 280 | *So. | 3 | 3 | C | 52 | BRYAN STORK | 6-4 | 300 | *Sr. | 3 | 3 | |
57 | Jay Guillermo | 6-3 | 315 | *Fr. | 3 | 3 | 62 | Austin Barron | 6-3 | 295 | Jr. | NA | 2 | |||
RG | 62 | TYLER SHATLEY | 6-3 | 300 | *Gr. | 3 | 3 | RG | 54 | TRE’ JACKSON | 6-4 | 330 | Jr. | 3 | 3 | |
77 | Reid Webster | 6-3 | 300 | *Jr. | 3 | 3 | 65 | Ruben Carter | 6-4 | 309 | *So. | 3 | 3 | |||
RT | 76 | SHAQ ANTHONY | 6-4 | 280 | *So. | 3 | 3 | RT | 51 | BOBBY HART | 6-4 | 315 | Jr. | 5 | 4 | |
70 | Gifford Timothy | 6-6 | 315 | *Jr. | 2 | 3 | 60 | Jacob Fahrenkrug | 6-4 | 326 | *Sr. | 4 | 4 | |||
TE | 81 | STANTON SECKINGER | 6-4 | 230 | *So. | 2 | 3 | TE | 35 | NICK O’LEARY | 6-3 | 248 | Jr. | 4 | 4 | |
40 | Darrell Smith | 6-1 | 240 | *Gr. | 3 | 2 | 4 | Giorgio Newberry | 6-6 | 280 | *So. | 4 | 4 | |||
or | 86 | Sam Cooper | 6-6 | 250 | *Jr. | 2 | 2 | WR-X | 80 | RASHAD GREENE | 6-0 | 180 | Jr. | 4 | 4 | |
WR | 2 | SAMMY WATKINS | 6-1 | 205 | Jr. | 5 | 5 | 84 | Isaiah Jones | 6-4 | 200 | Fr. | 4 | 4 | ||
82 | T.J. Green | 6-3 | 195 | Fr. | 3 | 2 | QB | 5 | JAMEIS WINSTON | 6-4 | 228 | *Fr. | 5 | 5 | ||
87 | Matt Porter | 5-11 | 200 | *Jr. | N/A | N/A | 14 | Jacob Coker | 6-5 | 230 | *So. | 3 | 3 | |||
QB | 10 | TAJH BOYD | 6-1 | 225 | *Sr. | 5 | 4 | TB | 8 | DEVONTA FREEMAN | 5-9 | 203 | Jr. | 4 | 4 | |
18 | Cole Stoudt | 6-4 | 210 | Jr. | 3 | 3 | or | 32 | JAMES WILDER, JR. | 6-2 | 229 | Jr. | 5 | 5 | ||
RB | 25 | RODERICK McDOWELL | 5-10 | 200 | *Gr. | 3 | 4 | 9 | Karlos Williams | 6-1 | 223 | Jr. | 5 | 5 | ||
24 | Zac Brooks | 6-1 | 190 | So. | 4 | 4 | 15 | Ryan Green | 5-10 | 190 | Fr. | 4 | 4 | |||
22 | D.J. Howard | 6-0 | 195 | *Jr. | 3 | 3 | FB | 41 | CHAD ABRAM | 6-0 | 229 | Sr. | 3 | 3 | ||
WR | 13 | ADAM HUMPHRIES | 5-11 | 190 | Jr. | 3 | 2 | 33 | Freddie Stevenson | 6-1 | 230 | Fr. | 3 | 4 | ||
5 | Germone Hopper | 6-0 | 180 | *Fr. | 3 | 4 | WR-Y | 81 | KENNY SHAW | 6-0 | 170 | Sr. | 4 | 4 | ||
WR | 1 | MARTAVIS BRYANT | 6-5 | 200 | Jr. | 4 | 4 | 89 | Christian Green | 6-2 | 200 | *Jr. | 5 | 4 | ||
7 | Mike Williams | 6-3 | 205 | Fr. | 4 | 4 | 7 | Levonte Whitfield | 5-7 | 178 | Fr. | 3 | 4 | |||
WR-Z | 1 | KELVIN BENJAMIN | 6-5 | 234 | *So. | 4 | 4 | |||||||||
3 | Jesus Wilson | 5-9 | 177 | Fr. | 3 | 3 |
Defense
Clemson Defense | Florida State Defense | |||||||||||||||
Pos. | # | Player | Hgt | Wgt | Cl. | Scout | Rivals | Pos. | # | Player | Hgt | Wgt | Cl. | Scout | Rivals | |
DE | 93 | COREY CRAWFORD | 6-5 | 270 | Jr. | 4 | 4 | LDE | 90 | EDDIE GOLDMAN | 6-4 | 303 | So. | 5 | 5 | |
9 | Tavaris Barnes | 6-4 | 275 | *Jr. | 3 | 4 | 97 | Demonte McAllister | 6-2 | 290 | *Sr. | 4 | 4 | |||
DT | 50 | GRADY JARRETT | 6-1 | 295 | Jr. | 3 | 3 | 8 | TIMMY JERNIGAN | 6-2 | 296 | Jr. | 5 | 4 | ||
48 | D.J. Reader | 6-2 | 325 | So. | 3 | 3 | 55 | Jacobbi McDaniel | 6-0 | 295 | *Sr. | 5 | 5 | |||
99 | DeSHAWN WILLIAMS | 6-1 | 295 | Jr. | 3 | 3 | DT | 99 | NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE | 6-1 | 305 | *So. | 3 | 4 | ||
or | 91 | JOSH WATSON | 6-4 | 290 | *Jr. | 4 | 4 | 43 | Desmond Hollin | 6-3 | 270 | Jr. | 3 | 3 | ||
DE | 3 | VIC BEASLEY | 6-2 | 235 | *Jr. | 3 | 3 | RDE | 15 | MARIO EDWARDS, JR. | 6-3 | 277 | So. | 5 | 5 | |
90 | Shaq Lawson | 6-3 | 270 | Fr. | 3 | 4 | or | 44 | DeMARCUS WALKER | 6-3 | 270 | Fr. | 4 | 4 | ||
SLB | 34 | QUANDON CHRISTIAN | 6-2 | 230 | *Sr. | 3 | 3 | 21 | Chris Casher | 6-4 | 260 | *Fr. | 5 | 4 | ||
41 | T.J. Burrell | 5-11 | 215 | *Fr. | 3 | 3 | SLB | 6 | DAN HICKS | 6-4 | 260 | *Sr. | 2 | 2 | ||
MLB | 42 | STEPHONE ANTHONY | 6-2 | 245 | Jr. | 5 | 5 | 52 | Ukeme Eligwe | 6-2 | 240 | *Fr. | 4 | 4 | ||
44 | B.J. Goodson | 6-1 | 235 | *So. | 2 | 3 | MLB | 7 | CHRISTIAN JONES | 6-4 | 235 | Sr. | 4 | 5 | ||
WLB | 33 | SPENCER SHUEY | 6-3 | 240 | *Gr. | 3 | 3 | 24 | Terrance Smith | 6-4 | 215 | *So. | 4 | 3 | ||
7 | Tony Steward | 6-1 | 230 | Jr. | 4 | 5 | or | 10 | E.J. Levenberry | 6-3 | 236 | Fr. | 4 | 4 | ||
CB | 17 | BASHAUD BREELAND | 6-0 | 185 | *Jr. | 4 | 3 | WLB | 22 | TELVIN SMITH | 6-3 | 218 | Sr. | 3 | 4 | |
26 | Garry Peters | 6-0 | 185 | *Jr. | 3 | 4 | 5 | Reggie Northrup | 6-1 | 220 | So. | 3 | 4 | |||
S | 11 | TRAVIS BLANKS | 6-0 | 200 | So. | 4 | 4 | or | 12 | Matthew Thomas | 6-3 | 215 | Fr. | 5 | 5 | |
20 | Jayron Kearse | 6-4 | 205 | Fr. | 4 | 4 | CB | 26 | P.J. WILLIAMS | 6-0 | 190 | So. | 4 | 4 | ||
S | 27 | ROBERT SMITH | 5-11 | 210 | Jr. | 3 | 3 | or | 3 | RONALD DARBY | 5-11 | 190 | So. | 5 | 4 | |
12 | Korrin Wiggins | 5-11 | 190 | Fr. | 3 | 3 | SS | 31 | TERRENCE BROOKS | 5-11 | 200 | Sr. | 3 | 3 | ||
CB | 8 | DARIUS ROBINSON | 5-10 | 175 | Sr. | 3 | 4 | 37 | Keelin Smith | 6-3 | 185 | *So. | 3 | 3 | ||
14 | Martin Jenkins | 5-9 | 185 | *Jr. | 3 | 3 | FS | 13 | JALEN RAMSEY | 6-1 | 195 | Fr. | 5 | 5 | ||
29 | Nate Andrews | 5-11 | 208 | Fr. | 3 | 3 | ||||||||||
CB | 20 | LAMARCUS JOYNER | 5-8 | 190 | Sr. | 5 | 5 | |||||||||
14 | Nick Waisome | 5-10 | 176 | Jr. | 4 | 4 |
Special Teams
Clemson Specialists | Florida State Specialists | |||||||||||||||
Pos. | # | Player | Hgt | Wgt | Cl. | Scout | Rivals | Pos. | # | Player | Hgt | Wgt | Cl. | Scout | Rivals | |
PK | 39 | CHANDLER CATANZARO | 6-3 | 200 | *Gr. | N/A | N/A | PK | 19 | ROBERTO AGUAYO | 6-1 | 203 | *Fr. | 3 | 3 | |
36 | Ammon Lakip | 5-10 | 200 | *So. | 3 | 2 | P | 38 | CASON BEATTY | 6-3 | 229 | So. | 3 | 2 | ||
P | 92 | BRADLEY PINION | 6-6 | 230 | So. | 3 | 3 | KO | 19 | Roberto Aguayo | 6-1 | 203 | *Fr. | 3 | 3 | |
36 | Ammon Lakip | 5-10 | 200 | *So. | 3 | 2 | LS | 57 | Philip Doumar | 6-1 | 225 | *Sr. | N/A | N/A | ||
KO | 92 | Bradley Pinion | 6-6 | 230 | So. | 3 | 3 | H | 38 | Cason Beatty | 6-3 | 229 | So. | 3 | 2 | |
36 | Ammon Lakip | 5-10 | 200 | *So. | 3 | 2 | PR | 81 | Kenny Shaw | 6-0 | 170 | Sr. | 4 | 4 | ||
LS(PK) | 75 | Michael Sobeski | 6-2 | 220 | *Jr. | N/A | N/A | 3 | Jesus Wilson | 5-9 | 177 | Fr. | 3 | 3 | ||
52 | Phillip Fajgenbaum | 6-1 | 225 | *Gr. | N/A | N/A | KOR | 9 | Karlos Williams | 6-1 | 223 | Jr. | 5 | 5 | ||
LS(P) | 52 | Phillip Fajgenbaum | 6-1 | 225 | *Gr. | N/A | N/A | 3 | Jesus Wilson | 5-9 | 177 | Fr. | 3 | 3 | ||
75 | Michael Sobeski | 6-2 | 220 | *Jr. | N/A | N/A | 7 | Levonte Whitfield | 5-7 | 178 | Fr. | 3 | 4 | |||
H | 32 | Corbin Jenkins | 5-10 | 175 | *Jr. | N/A | N/A | or | 20 | Lamarcus Joyner | 5-8 | 190 | Sr. | 5 | 5 | |
92 | Bradley Pinion | 6-6 | 230 | So. | 3 | 3 | ||||||||||
PR | 13 | Adam Humphries | 5-11 | 190 | Jr. | 3 | 2 | |||||||||
5 | Germone Hopper | 6-0 | 180 | *Fr. | 3 | 4 | ||||||||||
KOR | 25 | Roderick McDowell | 5-10 | 200 | *Gr. | 3 | 4 | |||||||||
& | 82 | T.J. Green | 6-3 | 195 | Fr. | 3 | 2 |