Clemson @ Florida State 2012 Depth Chart Comparison

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Clemson opens up their ACC schedule Saturday against the Florida State Seminoles at Doak Campbell Stadium. We'll see how this squad's recruited talent compares to our Clemson Tigers. Before we get into the analysis, I'll begin with the standard housekeeping items. The depth charts for both teams were attained DIRECTLY from the Clemson website (www.clemsontigers.com). A pdf version of this can be found here. I will go ahead and tell you that because of injuries and Monday depth chart adjustments, some items here may be a little out of place but in an effort to maintain consistency, I'll use both teams' depth charts as presented on the official website.

We should not have to tell you this, but some folks debate what to take from these articles. We expect you, the reader, to form an opinion of your own. Often we will give you our take on things, but you should independently form your own thoughts based on information out there. This article shows recruiting data for the depth chart roster as referenced above. It does not weigh experience nor does it evaluate coaching, preparation, etc... We think this is an interesting and valuable tool that is useful in overall program evaluation because there is a link between these star ratings and other metrics in both college football and the NFL.

Keep in mind as you look through this data that only players who were officially signed were given a "Star Rating". Players who were not signed could not be quantitatively assessed a recruiting rating. Such players get a "NA" rating and were not included in the averaged data. Again, all data was attained from www.Scout.com and www.Rivals.com. Players whose Scout/Rivals data was not available but were signed were assigned a "NR". We picked carefully through the data and believe all is correct. However, if we've overlooked an item we apologize in advance and ask that you point it out so that we can make the correction in our database.

Figure 1 and Table I both show an average of offensive players, defensive players, and specialist listed on the two-deep roster. Tables II through IV show the two-deep roster used for analysis along with the recruiting ratings for each player on the roster. A quick glance shows you Clemson is behind Florida State across the board in recruited talent. I'll discount the special teams numbers but these numbers are pretty much on par with where i thought the two squads would end up before looking at a single number.

While Clemson has recruited very well the past half decade or so, Florida State flat out killed it--especially with the arrival of Fischer in Tallahassee. On offense, Clemson is approximately one third of a star behind the 'Noles. Defensive talent levels are much closer, with FSU beating out CU on average by 0.20 stars per player. Special teams sees a big FSU lead and the Seminoles hold about a third of a star advantage overall.

Overall info below...the complete data following the jump.

Table I: Overall Recruiting Information

Team Recruiting Service Offense Defense Specialists Overall Average
Clemson Scout 3.36 3.44 3.09 3.34
Rivals 3.36 3.60 3.00 3.39
Average 3.36 3.52 3.05 3.37
Florida State Scout 3.70 3.68 3.80 3.71
Rivals 3.55 3.76 3.50 3.62
Average 3.62 3.72 3.65 3.66

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Figure 1: Overall Recruiting Data

Table II: Offensive Comparison

Clemson Offense Florida State Offense
Pos. # Player Hgt Wgt Cl. Scout Rivals Pos. # Player Hgt Wgt Cl. Scout Rivals
LT 63 BRANDON THOMAS 6-3 305 *Jr. 4 4 LT 75 CAMERON ERVING 6-6 310 *So. 3 3
79 Isaiah Battle 6-6 280 Fr. 3 3 67 Daniel Glauser 6-5 305 Sr. 4 3
LG 68 DAVID BEASLEY 6-4 315 *So. 3 3 LG 70 JOSUE MATIAS 6-6 326 So. 4 4
67 Kalon Davis 6-5 330 *So. 3 3 60 Jacob Fahrenkrug 6-4 322 Sr. 4 4
C 55 DALTON FREEMAN 6-5 285 *Gr. 4 4 C 52 BRYAN STORK 6-4 312 *Jr. 3 3
58 Ryan Norton 6-3 270 *Fr. 3 3 62 Austin Barron 6-3 295 So. NA 2
RG 62 TYLER SHATLEY 6-3 295 *Jr. 3 3 53 Sterling Lovelady 6-3 291 So. 3 3
77 Reid Webster 6-5 285 *So. 3 3 RG 54 TRE’ JACKSON 6-4 327 So. 3 3
RT 70 GIFFORD TIMOTHY 6-6 310 *So. 2 3 51 Bobby Hart 6-4 316 So. 5 4
76 Shaq Anthony 6-4 265 *Fr. 3 3 RT 71 MENELIK WATSON 6-6 320 Jr. 3 3
TE 80 BRANDON FORD 6-4 240 *Gr. 3 4 67 Daniel Glauser 6-5 305 Sr. 4 3
86 Sam Cooper 6-5 250 *So. 2 2 76 Garrett Faircloth 6-7 290 *Jr. 2 2
88 Eric MacLain 6-4 260 *Fr. 4 4 TE 35 NICK O’LEARY 6-3 238 So. 4 4
WR 6 DeANDRE HOPKINS 6-2 205 Jr. 4 4 33 Kevin Haplea 6-4 247 Jr. N/A N/A
16 Adam Humphries 5-11 190 So. 3 2 83 Christo Kourtzidis 6-4 246 Fr. 4 4
QB 10 TAJH BOYD 6-1 225 *Jr. 5 4 44 Will Tye 6-2 256 *So. 3 3
8 Cole Stoudt 6-5 205 So. 3 3 WR-X 80 RASHAD GREENE 6-0 170 So. 4 4
RB 23 ANDRE ELLINGTON 5-10 195 *Sr. 4 4 81 Kenny Shaw 6-0 170 Jr. 4 4
22 D.J. Howard 5-11 195 *So. 3 3 82 Willie Haulstead 6-2 227 *Jr. 3 4
25 Roderick McDowell 5-9 195 *Jr. 3 4 QB 3 EJ MANUEL 6-5 238 *Sr. 5 4
FB 40 DARRELL SMITH 6-2 250 *Jr. 3 2 9 Clint Trickett 6-3 180 *So. 3 3
WR 18 JARON BROWN 6-2 205 *Gr. 3 3 TB 4 CHRIS THOMPSON 5-8 187 Sr. 3 4
1 Martavis Bryant 6-5 200 So. 4 4 8 Devonta Freeman 5-8 209 So. 4 4
WR 2 SAMMY WATKINS 6-1 205 So. 5 5 32 James Wilder, Jr. 6-2 226 So. 5 5
19 Charone Peake 6-3 200 So. 4 4 FB 24 LONNIE PRYOR 6-0 229 Sr. 4 4
41 Chad Abram 6-0 235 Jr. 3 3
WR-Y 12 JARRED HAGGINS 6-0 190 Jr. 3 3
or 89 CHRISTIAN GREEN 6-2 200 *So. 5 4
10 Marvin Bracy 5-9 172 Fr. 4 4
WR-Z 84 RODNEY SMITH 6-6 219 Sr. 4 4
15 Greg Dent 5-11 195 Jr. 4 4
1 Kelvin Benjamin 6-5 242 *Fr. 4 4

Table III: Defensive Comparison

Clemson Defense Florida State Defense
Pos. # Player Hgt Wgt Cl. Scout Rivals Pos. # Player Hgt Wgt Cl. Scout Rivals
DE 97 MALLICIAH GOODMAN 6-4 270 Sr. 4 4 LDE 95 BJOERN WERNER 6-4 255 Jr. 4 3
6 Tavaris Barnes 6-4 275 *So. 3 4 96 Toshmon Stevens 6-5 245 *Sr. 3 3
98 Kevin Dodd 6-5 280 Fr. 3 3 DT 93 EVERETT DAWKINS 6-3 300 *Sr. 3 4
NG 50 GRADY JARRETT 6-1 290 So. 3 3 97 Demonte McAllister 6-2 285 *Jr. 4 4
48 D.J. Reader 6-3 335 Fr. 3 3 81 Eddie Goldman 6-4 320 Fr. 5 5
DT 91 JOSH WATSON 6-4 285 *So. 4 4 DT 92 ANTHONY McCLOUD 6-2 310 *Sr. 2 2
or 99 DeSHAWN WILLIAMS 6-1 285 So. 3 3 or 8 TIMMY JERNIGAN 6-2 298 So. 5 4
94 Carlos Watkins 6-3 300 Fr. 4 4 99 Nile Lawrence-Stample 6-1 314 *Fr. 3 4
DE 93 COREY CRAWFORD 6-5 270 So. 4 4 RDE 91 CORNELLIUS CARRADINE 6-5 265 Sr. 5 4
3 Vic Beasley 6-3 225 *So. 3 3 51 Giorgio Newberry 6-6 273 *Fr. 4 4
SLB/NB 34 QUANDON CHRISTIAN 6-2 225 *Jr. 3 3 SLB 10 NICK MOODY 6-2 237 *Sr. 3 4
or 11 TRAVIS BLANKS 6-1 190 Fr. 4 4 24 Terrance Smith 6-4 212 *Fr. 4 3
MLB 12 STEPHONE ANTHONY 6-3 235 So. 5 5 MLB 11 VINCE WILLIAMS 6-1 247 *Sr. 3 4
33 Spencer Shuey 6-3 230 *Jr. 3 3 or 22 TELVIN SMITH 6-3 212 Jr. 3 4
WLB 46 JONATHAN WILLARD 6-2 225 *Sr. 3 4 WLB 7 CHRISTIAN JONES 6-4 232 Jr. 4 5
42 Corico Wright 5-11 230 Sr. 3 3 12 Reggie Northrup 6-1 220 Fr. 3 4
7 Tony Steward 6-1 235 So. 4 5 CB 27 XAVIER RHODES 6-2 217 *Jr. 3 3
CB 21 DARIUS ROBINSON 5-10 175 Jr. 3 4 37 Keelin Smith 6-3 185 *Fr. 3 3
37 Dante Stewart 5-8 185 *So. N/A N/A 1 Tyler Hunter 5-11 190 So. 3 3
26 Garry Peters 6-0 195 *So. 3 4 SS 20 LAMARCUS JOYNER 5-8 195 Jr. 5 5
SS 5 JONATHAN MEEKS 6-1 210 Sr. 4 4 1 Tyler Hunter 5-11 190 So. 3 3
27 Robert Smith 5-11 210 So. 3 3 FS 31 TERRENCE BROOKS 5-11 197 Jr. 3 3
FS 9 XAVIER BREWER 5-11 190 *Gr. 4 3 9 Karlos Williams 6-1 230 So. 5 5
31 Rashard Hall 6-2 210 *Gr. 3 3 CB 6 NICK WAISOME 5-10 170 So. 4 4
CB 17 BASHAUD BREELAND 6-0 195 *So. 4 3 13 Ronald Darby 5-11 189 Fr. 5 4
29 Cortez Davis 6-3 200 *Fr. 3 4

Table IV: Special Teams Comparison

Clemson Specialists Florida State Specialists
Pos. # Player Hgt Wgt Cl. Scout Rivals Pos. # Player Hgt Wgt Cl. Scout Rivals
PK 39 CHANDLER CATANZARO 6-2 195 *Jr. N/A N/A PK 18 DUSTIN HOPKINS 6-2 190 Sr. 3 3
36 Ammon Lakip 5-10 175 *Fr. 3 2 P 38 CASON BEATTY 6-3 229 Fr. 3 2
or 13 Spencer Benton 6-1 195 *Sr. 2 2 29 Dillon Kidd 6-1 222 *Fr. N/A N/A
P 13 SPENCER BENTON 6-1 195 *Sr. 2 2 KO 18 Dustin Hopkins 6-2 190 Sr. 3 3
92 Bradley Pinion 6-6 230 Fr. 3 3 LS 64 Dax Dellenbach 6-1 235 Sr. N/A N/A
KO 13 Spencer Benton 6-1 195 *Sr. 2 2 57 Philip Doumar 6-1 215 *Jr. N/A N/A
92 Bradley Pinion 6-6 230 Fr. 3 3 H 86 Chris Revell 6-1 198 Jr. N/A N/A
LS(PK) 75 Michael Sobeski 6-2 205 *So. N/A N/A 38 Cason Beatty 6-3 229 Fr. 3 2
52 Phillip Fajgenbaum 6-0 220 *Jr. N/A N/A PR 80 Rashad Greene 6-0 170 So. 4 4
LS(P) 52 Phillip Fajgenbaum 6-0 220 *Jr. N/A N/A 81 Kenny Shaw 6-0 170 Jr. 4 4
75 Michael Sobeski 6-2 205 *So. N/A N/A 1 Tyler Hunter 5-11 190 So. 3 3
H 13 Spencer Benton 6-1 195 *Sr. 2 2 KOR 9 Karlos Williams 6-1 230 So. 5 5
39 Chandler Catanzaro 6-2 195 *Jr. N/A N/A & 20 Lamarcus Joyner 5-8 195 Jr. 5 5
PR 2 SAMMY WATKINS 6-1 205 So. 5 5 13 Ronald Darby 5-11 189 Fr. 5 4
6 DeANDRE HOPKINS 6-2 205 Jr. 4 4
KOR 2 SAMMY WATKINS 6-1 205 So. 5 5
18 Jaron Brown 6-2 205 *Gr. 3 3

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