2011 Position Analysis: OC Chad Morris and the QB's
Note: We do these every year and prefer to wait until after Signing Day to finish them because we are taking recruiting into account. We will evaluate each coach, whether he is here or not, as if he were still here and we rate them based on their entire body of work - not just one single year.
Chad Morris just completed his first season as Clemson's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. Morris replaced Billy Napier last winter, with Napier also responsible for the quarterbacks in addition to playcalling duties. In case you are wondering, here is how we graded Napier at the conclusion of last season.
Coach Morris arrived last January after one season as offensive coordinator at Tulsa. Tulsa's 2010 offense was extremely impressive, putting up Playstation like numbers all season. Prior to his time at Tulsa, Morris was a Texas High School Football legend, winning three (3) state titles, was coach of the year in 11 of his 16 years as a head coach, and won a boatload of games overall (169-38). During Morris' time in the high school ranks, he developed some impressive quarterback talent including Jevan Snead, Garrett Gilbert, Kody Spano, Scott Elliott, and Andrew Smith. Morris is a 1992 graduate of Texas A&M.
Looking back, Dr. B looks like a prophet, crafting these articles shortly after Morris was hired. I will say that I was a bit skeptical of Morris but was also enthused after seeing Tulsa film. Clemson got all of the positives that we saw out of Tulsa during the initial film study: discipline, simplicity, and a well-planned attack. We got the major negative too: turnovers (though we warned more of fumbles than INTs). Morris used this disciplined approach and featured impressive talent to resurrect this offense from the disorder that we saw last season.
Additionally, Morris was able to get a lot out of Tajh Boyd. Boyd improved dramatically over the calendar year and I truly think that The Chad was the critical driver behind this progression. We'll discuss the individual quarterbacks along with their coach as we get into this progression in addition to our takes on the offense as a whole.
How we will grade the Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach:
- Recruiting
- Overall Unit Discipline
- Game Planning/In-Game Adjustments
- Coordination of Personnel Groupings
- Decision Making/Understanding of the Game--both by Player and Coach
- Throwing Ability (Accuracy, Velocity, Overall Mechanics)
- Leadership Qualities from the QB
Offensive Coordinator Responsibilities:
We'll start by pointing out the obvious: Chad Morris brings something to Clemson that we've not seen since Swinney took over the head job. Morris makes it clear that he is responsible for the offensive performance. He makes this point to not only the players, fans, and media but also to Swinney. Because of this assertion, his track record as a successful coach, and his pace of play, we saw much more offensive coordinator independence from meddling than we have seen in a couple years.
Now that that item is out of the way, I'll state the other obvious: Chad Morris is a damn good football coach and was a very critical part of the offensive overhaul we saw over the past year. This was an overhaul, not just an influx of talent. Don't get me wrong, adding Sammy Watkins to any offense is an immediate jumpstart, but this was more. We saw the offensive tempo wear folks down at times this year. We saw much more disciplined offensive unit. We saw a simpler attack strategy. The end result was more discipline and better offensive output.
This discipline was shown in all the receivers blocking well on the perimeter--a first here in quite a while for our Tigers. Clemson's offensive pass blocking was fair for most of the year. We saw improved conditioning out of this team early on and Clemson ran a lot of plays per game without having a player pass out on the field as they would have last fall. Discipline showed through improved decision making and game preparation from our young quarterback. This offense improved all around and, for a large portion of the season, made big plays and not big mistakes. We will be interested in seeing if Morris' leadership can fix the mess Brad Scott left here. We need a meaner, tougher, more physical offensive line. Morris said that this is a priority for him and some of the stuff we saw in '11 is not acceptable moving forward.
We love Morris' core philosophy: make the offense as simple as possible so that the players are playing and not thinking. Offensive complexity is an item that Clemson fans complained about since Ron Spence rolled into town. What Morris has done is installed a hurry up, direct snap version of the wing-t that allows our (skill) players to make minimal LOS adjustments. Presnap reads for the quarterback are much simpler as well. In the end, the onus for decision making is shifted from the player back onto the coaching staff and Chad Morris in particular.
All of this leads to game planning and in-game decisions. Overall, there was a much more defined plan of action week in and week out during the 2011 campaign than we've seen here in recent seasons. Morris does an excellent job getting the players ready to play and does a good job making adjustments based on what he and his players see during games.
We were somewhat critical of Morris' playcalling during the season at times, largely after the 8-0 start. These criticisms included Clemson's inability to stretch opposing defenses and prematurely getting away from running the football--particularly when we were running the football well. We saw Boyd almost forced to run at times due to Morris' focus on forcing that area of attack. We also saw awkward, forced passes which caused Morris to further limit his quarterback. Add into this mix a less-than-impressive offensive line performance and we saw an offense that sputtered in late October and throughout November. Yet Morris and crew were able to rally the troops and won when they absolutely had to, first to lock up the Atlantic then to secure a spot in the Orange Bowl.
It was slightly frustrating to watch this offense press themselves at times this year, particularly when down. The Orange Bowl was a good example. Morris inexplicably got away from the running game midway through the second quarter even though Ellington gashed the Mountaineers early in the contest. This placed more pressure on his quarterback which, in turn, caused a couple unfortunate turnovers. It is human nature to press at times and/or try to force participants to do certain things and these two items compounded the shortcomings we saw in the losses.
Personnel groupings worked out pretty well outside of short yardage situations. Everyone on offense had nice statistics as a whole and Clemson put up numbers when the Tigers didn't need a single yard or two. Morris clearly knows where he wants to mix in WR's, RB's, and TE's to move the football up and down the field. More folks were placed into positions that made them successful and more guys made plays for the Tigers this season. How he figures out how to convert 3rd and 1 situations more consistently will likely be at the top of the list this offseason. Overall he, his system, and his philosophy were successful in year number 1. We'll look for him to build on this success and avoid the mishaps that occurred from late-October through November and down in Miami.
Offensive Statistics:
Before the season we made a guess on our most reasonable expectation of the offense in 2011:
I think about the best realistic production we can hope for is a 50 catch, 500-600 yard season from Watkins, a couple hundred more than that from Hopkins, and 300-500 from Brown. That would top last year’s production and combined with Ellington and Bellamy with Howard spelling, should get us back up to the Top 40 in offense. If we finished in the Top 20 in total offense I would be ecstatic, but Tajh would have to be stellar in his first year without teething issues, which I just don’t think is realistic in year 1 of a scheme against this schedule.
The numbers clearly point a picture of an improved offense in Morris' first season in Tigertown that nearly made Top 20. Trend data is shown below.
|
Season |
G |
Rush Yards |
Rush Yards/ Game |
Pass Yards |
Pass Yards/ Game |
Total Yards |
Yards/ Game |
Total Plays |
Plays per Game |
Yards/ Play |
Time of Poss./ Game |
|
2011 |
14 |
2219 |
158.5 |
3952 |
282.3 |
6171 |
440.80 |
1055 |
75.36 |
5.85 |
28.08 |
|
2010 |
13 |
1805 |
138.85 |
2544 |
195.7 |
4349 |
334.50 |
865 |
66.54 |
5.00 |
29.11 |
|
2009 |
14 |
2385 |
170.36 |
2688 |
192 |
5073 |
362.40 |
886 |
63.29 |
5.70 |
27.85 |
|
2008 |
13 |
1450 |
111.54 |
2832 |
217.8 |
4282 |
329.40 |
831 |
63.92 |
5.20 |
29.32 |
|
2007 |
13 |
2095 |
161.15 |
3147 |
242.1 |
5242 |
403.20 |
963 |
74.08 |
5.40 |
30.68 |
Morris was able, though 14 football games, to improve all of Clemson's statistics. The only significant item shown above that was not the head and shoulder leader over the past four seasons was, thanks to C.J. Spiller, rushing yards in 2009 and a stout 161 rushing yards per game in 2007. The 2011 rushing attack was much better than the '08 and '10 campaigns, head and shoulders better than any of the previous four passing seasons, and killed it in the total yards category. Clemson's 2011 offensive attack easily led the yards per play category despite increasing their offensive plays to over 75 per game which was also a four year high. The lone category that suffered was the one that Morris cares little about--time of possession. This is indicative of a fast paced attack that benefitted from a lot of big plays (similar to the 2009 team that ran a significant TOP deficit as well).
These improvements in yards per game translated into better scoring. Like offensive statistics shown above, 2011 was a banner year for Clemson in terms of scoring-better than any of the previous four seasons and over 9.5 points per game better than last season's numbers. However, we do think there is room for improvement, especially if we can ever learn to dominate teams up front.
Clearly we see a saw-blade type chart above. Thus, the critical question for Chad Morris is how this offense responds in 2012, as even years saw a tremendous falloff compared to odd seasons. Clemson loses a large portion of its offensive line and an All-American tight end but brings back a slew of skill position talent and its starting quarterback. We'll look to see if Morris can instill some consistency into a historically inconsistent offense.
| Category | 2009 | 2009 Ntl Rank | 2010 | 2010 Rank | 2011 | 2011 Rank |
| Rushing Offense | 170.36 | 40th | 139.0 | 79th | 155.85 | 60th |
| Passing Offense | 192.0 | 88th | 195.62 | 78th | 284.77 | 21th |
| Pass Efficiency | 127.09 | 67th | 115.3 | 100 | 142.32 | 36th |
| Total Offense | 362.36 | 74th | 334.62 | 88 | 440.62 | 27th |
| Scoring Offense | 31.14 | 28th | 24.0 | 86 | 33.62 | 24th |
| Sacks Allowed | 1.36pg | 31 | 1.38pg | 26 | 2.31pg | 86th |
| Overall turnover margin | .43 | 28 | -.23 | 69 | .15 | T-45th |
| Offensive FEI Rank | 32 | 56th | 22nd |
To further analyze our data, we show the FEI annual rankings. These rankings help pull some of the garbage stats out to get a better assessment of just how good (nationally) an offense really is. As shown below, Morris' 2011 Clemson offense has the best ranking of the five year Clemson analysis, affirming the information presented above regarding Clemson offensive improvement.
Quarterbacks Coach Responsibilities:
Tajh Boyd's mechanics and his overall physique improved dramatically from last season's Tire Bowl to the season opener against Troy, though we were unimpressed by the additional weight Tajh put on during the season (again). Boyd still has some bad habits in the footwork arena and has some small work to do with his release, but overall Morris has done an excellent job teaching and Boyd put in the extra effort to become proficient with a new offense. The young quarterback spent a great deal of time studying film and working out following a very disappointing spring. In fact, last spring was so bad that there were murmurings of true freshman Cole Stoudt overtaking Boyd in Fall Camp. Morris' influence caused this attitude change, make no doubt about it. Had Tajh not improved after Spring practice The Chad would not have played him, period.
Throughout this process, particularly the film study and summer work, Tajh led by example and was a guy that his teammates respected and worked hard with. Comments from the coaching staff during pressers reflected this respect earned by Boyd. This is why the staff did not greatly pursue a transfer from Tulsa QB G.J. Kinne last summer. Furthermore, Boyd's improved play and ability to make better decisions faster gave Tajh and the rest of the offense more confidence. Overall, you must commend the work done by Morris and Boyd since The Chad arrived on campus.
Tajh still has a ways to go to become the quarterback Clemson needs to win big games week in and out. If Tajh gets a better handle on that footwork, the sailing passes 3 feet over the TE or into the bubble receiver's ankles will stop. We noticed also, later this year, that his elbow was dropping more often, which can also make it sail or come out slightly sidearmed. These are his prime mechanical issues to work on this year, and we'll be looking in Spring. Boyd needs to spend more time in the film room this offseason understanding situational defensive strengths/weaknesses and how to mitigate strengths and attack weaknesses through his offenses' strengths. Several times this season Boyd was unable to adjust protection schemes in the face of defensive pressure. A large number of the higher sacks we allowed this year were due to protection calls that are his call to make. Also, we saw defenses at times drop 8 and, in such cases, Boyd was rendered ineffective moving the football and looked confused at times. Currently Tajh has shown the ability to make an initial presnap read and a single defender read pretty effectively, though he has a tendency to lock in on his primary and/or force the ball to a particular receiver. He has to improve on getting through his progression and anticipating where the open spots in the defense will be when his primary is not open.
Tajh seemed to press when Clemson was down, which is understandable for a relatively inexperienced quarterback. We expect Boyd to mature as he gains experience, learning to stay calm and not try to do too much, especially when the Tigers get behind on the scoreboard. Clemson has enough playmakers surrounding Boyd that he does not have to be the focal point and/or sparkplug for this unit. With Nuk, Sammy, Ellington and Allen on the offense last season, the next big play is should be just around the corner IF no major mistakes are made.
As mentioned earlier, Boyd improved his leadership qualities over a year ago. After the poor spring, Tajh set out to lead by example and secured the confidence of the team heading into the season because he put in the time necessary to improve. This effort is contagious and likely contributed to elevated play out of some skilled position veterans who had not performed well in the past. We now expect Boyd to be the leader during voluntary workouts, weight training, and film study.
Boyd does need to improve leadership in the in-season eating category. The quarterback who showed up for fall camp had a drastically different physique than in the Orange Bowl. There is no excuse for a quarterback to pack on the lbs, especially during the football season. Lay off the nachos and mix in a salad. This is not the first bowl game everyone has noticed the Virginia-native's gut hanging over his britches. Morris can influence this and, apparently, needs to advise his QB that he is not a bear and doesn't need to pack on the gut to make it through winter's hibernation period.
TB also needs to work on his off the field decision making. It is never good to see your quarterback make unforced errors with the media and through social networks. There is no need to emulate Dabo in the press. Boyd also, admittedly, was caught up in the early success and may have been distracted with all the accolades that he and this offense gained following the fast start. It will be up to him to temper these items and stay even-keeled if Clemson is to win big games over the entire season without significant periods of letdown. Morris commented on these items from a team perspective and should emphasize them further to his signal-caller as their relationship strengthens and deepens into The Chad's second season in Pickens County.
I don't want to be misunderstood about Boyd's development. There was drastic improvement that was prodded by the OC and realized by the quarterback. Continued improvement, particularly at this pace, will make Boyd a highly recognized player during the second half of his Clemson career.
Quarterback Statistics
Here are the passing statistics for Clemson's quarterbacks in 2011:
|
# |
Player |
Position |
G-S |
Cm-Att-I |
Yards |
TD |
LG |
20+ |
Cm% |
Y/A |
Y/C |
Y/G |
Eff |
|
10 |
Tajh Boyd |
QB |
14-14 |
298-499-12 |
3828 |
33 |
65 |
50 |
59.7% |
7.7 |
12.8 |
273.4 |
141.2 |
|
8 |
Cole Stoudt |
QB |
6-0 |
12-21-0 |
115 |
0 |
50 |
1 |
57.1% |
5.5 |
9.6 |
19.2 |
103.1 |
|
Total |
310-520-12 |
3943 |
33 |
65 |
51 |
59.6% |
7.6 |
12.7 |
281.6 |
||||
And the passing stats from 2010:
As shown above, the Tigers' quarterback numbers were impressive in '11, particularly when you consider Clemson installed a new offense and utilized a first year sophomore starter all season. Clemson threw for 1400 more yards and 16 more TDs on 111 more pass attempts in '11. The Tigers also threw two fewer interceptions with one additional football game and more attempts.
It would be ignorant not to acknowledge the pass catchers at this point. This season's receivers were much more disciplined, talented, and productive than past groups. This improvement gave the QB's more confidence throwing the football which, in turn, gave the staff more confidence calling passing plays. Guys like Dwayne Allen, Sammy Watkins, and Nuk Hopkins who give quality effort and performance week in and out contributed greatly to these numbers via their abilities to turn small gainers into really big plays.
Recruiting:
Swinney prefers to keep his coordinators at home more for game planning purposes in-season, which is a strategy we've endorsed here at STS. Morris, however, has been active in pursuing specific prospects he wants and listed as the primary recruiter for QB Chad Kelly as well as RB Zac Brooks -- each an out of state 4-star grab (Kelly from New York and Brooks a steal from Arkansas). The Chad appeared to be on the road as soon as he signed the contract last January. Here is the general overview (info courtesy of www.rivals.com):
|
Position |
Hometown |
High School |
Height |
Weight |
40 Time |
Star Rating |
Rivals Ranking |
Recruiter |
|
ATH |
Jonesboro, AR |
Jonesboro Senior |
6'2" |
180 |
4.4 |
4 stars |
5.8 |
Chad Morris |
|
QB |
Buffalo, NY |
St. Joseph's |
6'3" |
208 |
4.6 |
4 stars |
5.8 |
Chad Morris |
As you can see, Swinney/Scott used Morris predominantly outside of the "traditional" southeast recruiting zones of NC, SC, GA, and FL. You'll also notice that other targets that Morris was after were predominantly quarterbacks and most were from the Midwest and particularly Texas where The Chad built his reputation as one of the best high school coaches in the state. I'll also note that Morris was a key figure in luring other athletes to the university as the offensive coordinator eventually plays a major role in the recruitment of most offensive players because (and especially in CM's case) he largely drives the offensive philosophy for the football team.
Clemson brings in New York native Chad Kelly in this recruiting cycle. Kelly has been praised by many for his on the field ability but does appear to be very immature like many HS seniors. Ideally Kelly will take a redshirt in '12 to (A) get a better class spread of roster QBs (B) mature/adjust to college life via a less stressful 1st year (C) learn the Clemson offense completely before being thrown into the fire (D) get reps on scout team against Clemson's 1st and 2nd team defenses.
Brooks is also a tailor-made fit for this offense at RB, since the true scheme needs a RB that can be very active in the passing game, while being a force between the tackles. If Brooks bulks up without losing speed, watch out.
Overall
Morris' first season was impressive to say the least. The Chad came in and instilled some discipline that we've been missing offensively. Late in the season he effectively referred to CU's offensive line as soft and promised that this would not happen again. The Chad was able to quickly install his offense and successfully implement it with impressive results. While we understand that there were obvious talent improvements, we also realize that talent alone didn't change attitudes, work ethic, and effort as veterans who routinely made mistakes in past seasons and didn't always get after it each and every play were decidedly improved this season (well, except for one OG).
We give Morris his props and Dabo/TDP gave him a boatload of cash. We look to Morris to build upon the successes of 2011 to instill more discipline/fundamentals with stout skills players but young/inexperienced offensive line replacement. We also look to Morris to help Boyd fix the delivery issues in his throwing motion to make him a more accurate and consistent passer.
Our #1 worry about this offense going into 2012 is the OL though. If they can return to even the level of Tommy Wests stronger lines, this offense could get really scary. Unfortunately with the youngsters having to play, we can't get overly optimistic just yet, but we think Top 25 is definitely attainable.
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Nice read
I like Chad and his fire and his demand for doing the little things. I trust that he will get Tajh’s motions right and that Tajh will continue to show the leadership and dedication he showed this year.
One question though, about Cole. When he played did he show the same mechanical problems that Tajh does? I liked what Cole showed this year, I think he’ll be a good QB.
Also, the throws in the flats. I heard that QBs where told to throw the ball low on swing passes to avoid it being tipped in the air and possibly causing a TO. Is this correct?
From a casual viewer point on Cole
He did not seem to have any true mechanical issues as of yet, more like freshmen being thrust into a game we need to win issues. His reads were off, and he just seemed to have jitters. But what he was able to do for us in BC game, I do have confidence in him going further. Lets hope that Morris involves his backup QB in practice more than how Rob Spence did.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
I'm a Chad Morris fan
I love the way he doesnt beat around the bush and puss out and use a lot of coachspeak. But before we crown him the second coming of Jesus as O.C. I want to see how he does after 2 or 3 years in the same conference after guys get film on him and learn his tendencies. I think the best thing about him is, at least he has a system, whereas Napier did not. But I gotta believe that given the influx of talent this year that Napier couldve produced much better results in ‘11 than he did in ’10. Heck just having Sammy was worth two wins by himself. Also, I gotta believe that Tajh knowing he’s the starter and having all the practice time in Spring, Summer, and Fall to himself really helped as well.
I think his offense seems a little gimmicky at times. Also, at times, I felt he abandoned calling running plays, even when we were gaining good yardage.
Napier had a system
by all accounts Napier is an I-formation run it up the middle guy, but Dabo loves the spread. Napier by himself would’ve been completely different than the Dapier offense of 2010.
by PenthouseTiger on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not convince Napier was as good a teacher however
Do you think Tajh would have progressed physically and mentally as well under him. I have serious doubts and ultimately you can only go as far as the QB, this is what makes me excited about Morris. You need an effective QB in any system.
I agree with all of that.
I was just arguing that Napier did, in fact have a system, and believe he would’ve been more successful than he was (probably not as successful as Morris) if he hadn’t had Dabo meddling with his offense.
by PenthouseTiger on Feb 10, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
One season does not a genius make
But it seems clear that Morris was an upgrade over Napier at OC and QB coach. How much the improvements on offense are due solely to Morris, and not to other coaches, available players, etc. is difficult to judge. But the offense in 2010 was horrible, so there was nowhere to go but up. I’m not sure if Boyd learned a damn thing while he was on the bench for two years before Morris got here.
At least we can say that some of the Spence mindset of super complexity + nothing past 5 yards downfield has gone by the wayside. I expected to see a lot more option plays this past year, but I get the impression that Boyd is just not very good at making those reads. It also seemed that we used less misdirection as the season went on. I agree that there were times when it seemed we could have run the ball a bit more, but that can be said about any team or coach.
He is certainly being paid like he is the top OC in the country now, so he better look like it from here on out.
Biggest issue with Chad Morries is what Figure Four and DrB have stated
For some strange reason we would abandon the run game either late in the 2nd, or early in the 3rd, and not come back to it until it was either too late, or ineffective for the rest of the game. In this simplified, fast pace offense the run game is key to setting up everything, without it then we are just an Air Raid offense, which is easier (In terms of rushing the QB, jamming the WR) to defend. This upcoming season Andre, Bellamy, and Howard will be called on to set up the run, so that teams will respect it and not just drop 8 defenders back.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
You need well-conditioned, tough OLs to sustain a running game.
Having watched a bunch of Tulsa games in 2010, I think Morris would have liked to have run the ball more (including more QB runs) if Clemson had the personnel. But much of the time our OLs were either getting pushed around or couldn’t open up holes— especially on 3rd and short.
I know Morris loves to run the ball, but I cannot figure out why he abandons it.
Even in the Maryland game where AE was killing them, he would run once and pass three or four times before coming back with AE.
I cannot begin to tell you how many drives this year were like this: run on first for 4-6 yards. Throw on second. Throw on third, convert. Throw on first, throw on second, throw on third, punt. 6 plays, 1 run. Then come back the next possession and repeat.
Good Read
Morris did a great job with Boyd and we won the ACC Championship for the first time in 20 years. For that Morris should get a lot of credit.
We’ve gotten to the point where we have more talent on campus than we have had since the early 90s. We have made the financial commitment to the program and are paying our coaches elite level money.
I believe it’s time to raise our expectations beyond “shocking the world” or “better than Napier.” Although, I expect us to take a step back next year due to Morris having a more uphill battle with a new OL and no Dwayne Allen. If our OL performance and wins increase, and I’m confident they’re tied to one another, I’ll start drinking the kool aid on Morris’ genius.
Good read.
I like Chad Morris, and hope he earns every penny that is being paid to him. One question I have, though, is if the players we had really suited his system, and whether we will see a lot of new wrinkles once he gets everything installed, and once he gets the players he wants to run the offense. Also, how much of a change should we expect to see by changing the blocking scheme? I imagine not much.
I agree we whould have run the ball more against WVU, and I think Morris pretty much said the same thing. However, I thought Morris was excellent at running it enough to keep the defense honest when we were playing great defensive fronts such as FSU and UNC.
"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony
by Tigerplowboy on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We kind of gave up on the run against UNC
they were stupid enough to single cover Sammy, Nuke, Bryant, Allen and that’s where we got our bread and butter. Our rushing yards were abysmal.
That they did
We did to UNC what all the teams that beat us this year did to us, take advantage of mistakes.
Run the Ball
The strength of the championship teams of the 70s and 80s was running the ball and controlling the clock. This has been the weakness since and continues to be the problem. Until we can control the line and run between the tackles, we won’t have consistent success. Running the ball takes the load off the QB, and gives your defense time to regroup. I like Morris, and he knows we have to improve in this area, but show me – don’t tell me. I think he did a great job with the QBs just teaching fundamentals.
It will be interesting to see how our running game will look with AE healthy all year (hopefully).
Also, I am interested to see if we can get some better play out of our OL.
"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony
by Tigerplowboy on Feb 8, 2012 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It'd be hard for it to be any worse
When we as fans are more comfortable in a 3rd and 5-10 moreso than a 3rd and 1 because we have no faith in our O-line getting a push for one yard, then we have a very big problem on our hands.
Yep.
I am feeling better about the OL now because we have two guys coming back who should be good, and I believe Shatley will come in and play well. The other two spots are wide open, but there is a ton of competition, and that generally makes everyone better. Do yall know if Morris plans to play more guys up front next year, or is he determined to play the same guys most of the time? Do yall know if Caldwell and Morris worked out their issues, or were there any issues? I think everyone agrees that the success of the offense next year will hinge on the success of the line, because we know the skill guys can get it done.
"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony
by Tigerplowboy on Feb 9, 2012 10:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can't speak for what will be done
But you generally only want to play 5 OL a year. The OL is a cohesive unit more so than any position on the field, the best analogy for it would be the 3 man lines they use in hockey. Those guys have to learn to play together, know when one guy is going to lose his block and every small nuance. You do not want to be pulling guys for certain plays or anything else.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
So is that why we look lost if one of the starters goes down?
Seems there will always be injuries, guys will need a breather, ect. If the zone blocking scheme means you have to play the same guys the whole game, then I agree with Morris and think we need to do something else.
"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony
Well no, thats not quite right
You want more than 5 to be able to play, you need 7 or 8 that can play up front at a minimum.
Chad himself thinks he can get by with 5 all game because they’ll be more cohesive, but when you run into an injury when you’ve only played 5, you’re in deep shit.
by DrB on Feb 9, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
it's funny, because this could have been said word for word last year.
“It will be interesting to see how our running game will look with AE healthy all year (hopefully).”
In 2008 we had loads of skill-player talent and we were breaking in a new O-line. Pre-season #9.
Post-season, unranked.
Is there any chance that the OL gels faster this time? I hope so, but I doubt it.
I have those same fears, but there are some big differences.
First, we have more starters coming back this time than in 2008, and, most importantly, Rob Spence is not the OC.
"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony
by Tigerplowboy on Feb 9, 2012 9:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No. We lose 5-of-6 OL starters. In 2008, we had lost only 3-of-6 OL starters.
Of the starting OLs, we lose, 5-of-6, Price, Smith, McClain, Walker, & Allen, and dependable backup Cloy.
After 2007, we only lost 3-of-6, Richardson, McDuffie, & Capote, while retaining, Humphries and future NFLers, Austin & Palmer.
Morris is a far better OC than Spence, but he needs an O-line to make his offense go.
I thought the only true starter we had back in 2008 was Austin?
I consider Thomas a starter, so he and Freeman are back. Therefore, we lose three starters (Price, McClain, and Walker). I am not counting the TE.
I agree that the OL has to perform in order for virtually any offense to click; however, Spence had a tough time even with a good OL.
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by Tigerplowboy on Feb 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
In fairness, Spence probably only had one good OL (2006)
and the best one went down midway through the season. The cupboard has been bare on OL way too often. However, an offense that refuses to challenge certain areas of the field is going to have a tougher time regardless.
Price beat out Brandon Thomas. Thomas only started when Price was injured.
And when Brandon Thomas started (against NCSU & SCAR) for an injured Price, Clemson got whupped, big-time. If you’re going to call Brandon Thomas a starter, then I think there were several “new” guys on the 2008 OL that were probably at least as good and seasoned as Thompson.
As long as TEs block, I think it’s fair to call them linemen— and in that regard, I think Dwayne Allen will be sorely missed relative to his replacement (like Ford).
As a Clemson fan, I really don’t want to believe that the OL will be worse than last year… and I’m hoping for a miracle. But I think it’s realistic to expect an OL downgrade— at least in the early part of the season. That’s why I’m one of the small minority who voted for the offense to remain outside the Top 25 (about the same as this season). I expect the skill players to play better due to experience, and the OL to play worse, due to experience (and TE talent loss).
FYI: Here are the 2007 & 2008 depth charts. My memory isn’t good enough to remember if they’re 100% accurate, but they seem right to me.
I consider Thomas the starter at LG, and not LT.
I agree that the OL will take a step back at least in the first half of next season, but I don’t think it will be as bad as 2008.
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by Tigerplowboy on Feb 13, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Regardless of Morris's stats, on eye-test alone, this is the first season (probably since RichRod left) that I felt the game-planning and play-calling was good.
For many years (until this year) I’ve been bemoaning the offensive game-planning and play-calling. The game-planning often didn’t take advantage of mismatches, and the play-calling was predictable and stupid. Even when the Morris’s offense didn’t execute, I didn’t find myself screaming about it being a stupid play-call. That was a really nice change.
I would love to see what Morris could do with a decent O-line, and smart, dual-threat QB like GJ Kinne.
Agree, his play calls had a purpose. Call a play once or twice that is setting them up for something else.
I think that’s the biggest problem last year. No rhyme or reason to the play calling. Almost like they had all the plays in a grab bag and they were just blindly picking one after another. Billy’s too nice of a guy, but I’d love for him to come out and say what really was going on behind the scenes and who was calling plays and how many times dabo would insert his own play over Billy’s. Certainly will never hear the truth from dabo on that.

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