Maryland Downs Clemson 64-62
Free Throws. Free Throws. Free Throws. They cost us again. There isn't much to be said about them that hasn't been said already. We've consistently missed them at crucial times all season. Hence the number of close losses that we've suffered this year. And it doesn't seem to matter if it's a freshmen or a senior. They're all missing them. It looks to me like our guys don't want to be on the line in pressure situations. Just look at Terrell Stoglin's body language compared to our guys when they head to the line.
It was a sloppy game that lacked flow throughout most of the game. Clemson again found themselves in a double digit deficit in the 2nd half. And they again found themselves making a furious rally in the final minutes to get back in the game. Last game it was aided by a zone press, this game it was aided by an extended 1-3-1 halfcourt trap. Switching from man-to-man to a 1-3-1, we were able to force the ball into troubled spots on the floor and produce a number of turnovers and rushed shots. The sped up pace of the game seemed to energize our guys for the second game in a row. Maybe we should start integrating different defenses earlier in the game in hopes to mitigate the flat starts we've had recently.
Behind the 1-3-1 trap, the Tigers quickly trimmed a 14 point deficit to a one possession game. With under a minute to go the Tigers got tight at the foul line and missed 4 out of 5 attempts from the line. Devin Booker missed 2 that could've cut a 3 point lead to 1. That was followed by Andre Young drawing a foul on a 3-point attempt, only to miss 2 of 3. There was something in the way both guys walked to the line that left me uneasy about their chances. Or maybe it's the fact that I've seen us struggle in clutch situations so often this year. At this point, its difficult to distinguish between the two.
Young, Jennings, and Booker were the only Tigers in double figures. Young and Jennings both got hot in the 2nd half from downtown, knocking down seven 3's. It was Jennings first game back from suspension, and although he still does many things that infuriate me, I thought he shot the ball with confidence and was generally pleased with his performance. I'd also like to point out that Booker is playing with a lot more confidence and energy the past couple games than he has at any other point this season. For as much as we ride him for being lazy, he has been busting his ass to on the backboards the last couple games. I believe that Jennings suspension may have had an impact on him. It seems it may have made him realize that this should be his team and that he needs to take ownership of it on game days. We'll see if he can sustain it, but in the mean time it's only fair to give credit where credit is due.
The most disappointing part of the game to me (besides losing) was that KJ McDaniels didn't get the start or as much run as I think he deserved after his tremendous game on Saturday. I think the worst thing you can do to a young guy is toy with his confidence level. After the way he played on Saturday, Brownell should've tried to keep the momentum going. Instead, he was subbed in and out frequently and was never able to get in a flow. He ended the game with just 2 points.
After evening their record at 3-3 in the ACC, the Tigers have now dropped 3 straight. They'll look to break that streak this weekend in Winston Salem when they take on Wake Forest.
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Milton was knocking them down at the end of the game. Every time he shot I cringed. And then he somehow made them. Milton had a great comeback game. And I obviously agree with you on the KJ point. I don’t know why he doesn’t get a chance to start. B-Nice got the start instead but picked up 2 quick fouls in less than 3 min.s and sat the rest of the half on the bench. I just don’t get why both Bobo AND B-Nice get the start over KJ. Maybe Brownell put in Bobo just bc of Maryland’s height in the frontcourt, but Bobo dropped several passes today, which is always infuriating to see.
I think that like you said the key to the loss was the missed free throws at the end, but I think we did a good job staying in it up until that point considering that the Terps went 8-11 from 3
oh, and Stoglin is really, really, really good
what happened at the end? when Milton threw it out of bounds
why didn’t we get the ball at the sideline? Why did they move it back to the baseline with no time off the clock? does anyone know?
The ball has to be touched in bounds for the ball to advance
They ruled that his foot was on the line when he touched the ball, which meant the ball never made it into play.
I’m assuming everyone has seen a scenario where one time throws the ball the length of the court and it goes straight out of bounds. Therefore, the opposing team gets the ball where it was originally inbounds from. This scenario is the same way, except we keep possession because he touched it. It’s a kooky situation that rarely ever happens.
thx for the explanation
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that situation before, so I was pretty confused. I guess its just one of those quirky rules that you pretty much never see
It was bizarre the way the game ended.
The official explanation, which both coaches said they agreed with, was that he never legally touched the ball in bounds. I thought this was questionable because I thought his foot was down just inside the line. I don’t know if you can review this, but I would have liked them to because it was at least close. Andre got a better look off his own thing than we would have had with Milton crazily heaving it like he did.
I’m not sure that Milton had the greatest game, I think he got lucky and hit a few threes which inflated his stats to 14 points. The guy is a 23 percent shooter, lets be honest, he should not be shooting them. And speaking of someone who shouldn’t be shooting them, Devin Booker. A 27 percent shooter from 3 who also insists on taking those 18 foot jumpers. I’d think about reducing his playing time if I were Brownell for taking those shots. He wants to be Trevor but he never will be, he needs to focus on his inside game.
The one thing I really don’t agree with is the stuff about is the “clutch” free throw shooting thing. We are a 68% FT shooting team, which is decent, but it also means that you are going to miss some free throws and missing 4 out of 5 occasionally is going to happen to any team. The whole myth of the “clutch” or “pressure” shooter, passer, hitter, etc. has been pretty well debunked by statisticians working in every sport, please don’t continue to perpetuate this stuff. We also missed 3 or 4 in a row to start the game, to what do you contribute that? We just aren’t a great free throw shooting team, that is a weakness, and it sometimes rears its ugly head down the stretch, but its not because of the pressure.
So how does that explain an ~ 90% FT shooter missing 2 of 3?
Clutch free throw shooting absolutely exists. If you don’t think some guys tense up shooting free throws in front of 10,000 people with the game on the line, I don’t know what to tell you. You’ve obviously never been in that situation.
Closer to 5,000
Littlejohn was a ghost town
by PenthouseTiger on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
You can always tell when someone makes a comment that has never played a competitive sport
Adam Vinatieri mad a lot of $$ in his career because of what he can do in the 4th QT. Not everyone is built that way.
D Wade takes the last shots for the Miami Heat. Lebron doesn’t.
At the end of a game, some guys want to be on the FT line and some guys would rather be anywhere else. GGGmen is 100% correct in that Young did not want to be there. Young was very comfortable last year being our 3rd option on offense, but now that the pressure is falling on him to be THE guy.. you’ve seen how he has handled it.
That comment annoyed me so much...
I have to say more.
Magic and Jordan were probably 75% shooters from the FT line in their careers, but in the last 2 minutes of a close game.. i bet that was closer to 95%. They wanted the pressure.. they wanted the ball. You can’t teach that.. you can’t coach that.. you’ve got it or you don’t.
Demontez had that. How many huge FTs at the end of games did he make for us over his 4 year career. Whatever IT is.. AY doesn’t have it.
Demontez was unbelievable
from the FT line no matter when it was. I think he went like 10 games his JR year without missing one.
by PenthouseTiger on Feb 8, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
To add to that, Booker was 6-7 before his last trip to the line
it’s not a coincidence that he got cold during with 43 seconds left.
I'll throw another name out there
KC Rivers – god love him. never hit a big shot at the end of the game in his life.
I was never a big TO guy, but that kid had balls. I can still see the 3 he hit against the terps when we came back from down 20.
Sedge, what'd you think of that 1-3-1 trap?
It was amoeba like at times and guys were not always in the right position, but it definitely made Maryland uncomfortable. I’m guessing Maryland will spend some time in practice against zones this week.
We have good length to play that defense more consistently, with Tanner, Booker, Jennings, Narcisse/McDaniels. Young is not the ideal height to run anchor that defense though.
I liked the 1-3-1
The guy on the back line needs to be your smartest player, so i think having AY there worked. The biggest weakness of that defense is if a team has a guy with vision that is able to look opposite. If you can get a guy to that opposite low block.. you’ll shoot a lot of layups.
Wanted to weigh in on Milton. That kid just needs 1 thing to go right for him, and the lightbulb comes on. He made that 3 from the top of the key and suddenly his entire body language changed. There was a different look in his eye. Personally, i would have wanted him on the line with 10 seconds left.. he would have made them.
Just because Milton is a 23 percent shooter from deep doesn’t mean we should rip him when he actually makes them. If he isn’t going to shoot a wide open 20 footer then our offense will completely falter. By your logic, Young should be the only one shooting 3’s. If that’s the case, defenses will pack 4 guys in the lane and play tight man on Young. Defending us would be simple. I don’t want Milton or Devin jacking up outside shots at every opportunity, but the threat has to be there.
We don’t have enough talent on this team to sit Devin. He is our only low post scoring threat. Bobo is good for a bucket or 2 a game. That is not enough.
thx for the explanation on the ending, but I’m still confused. If the Terp never legally touched the ball inbounds, then shouldn’t the ball have been declared last touched by Milton Jennings (as he was the one who threw it out of bounds) and therefor Maryland’s ball? I can see how it would be Terps ball, and I can see how it would be our ball next to our bench, but how did it end up back in Milton’s hands on the baseline again?
I actually have to agree with ggggmen in that we aren’t a clutch free throw shooting team. No, we aren’t a great free throw shooting team, as you point out, but I don’t think our general mediocrity at the line is why Devin and Andre missed their free throws tonight and why KJ missed his on Saturday.
I could buy the argument that Devin simply missed because he’s not a great ft shooter (72% on the season), but I don’t think that Andre (86%) went 1 of 3 just based on random chance.
There’s no way to know for sure, as none of us can get inside Andre’s head, but if I had to guess, I’d say that he missed it at the very least in large part due to the pressure of the situation
Free Throws come back on the players shoulders
It is difficult and a time waster when you spend practice time on Free Throws, and so in college most that is left for the player(s) to do either after practice before heading home, or on his on free time to come in and practice. Though, I know I would never recruit anyone for a major college program who couldn’t make at least 7/10 consistently.
As for McDaniels not playing last night, I was only able to catch the last minute and half, and that was a tough pill to swallow at home. One possible reason we might not be seeing him on the home court is probably related to how the fans treated Milton his first year, crowning him a savior before the season and then just blasting him when he couldn’t contribute immediately. Brownell might be protecting him, or maybe his practices are really that bad.
Overall, I think you can really see this team starting to gel and develop. This season hasn’t been easy or fun to watch (especially after the final horn sounds) but you can tell that these players are developing, and Coach Brownell and team are doing everything they can to build to a future.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Agree on the FTs
Gotta shoot a ton of them each day on your own. Practices need to teach fundamentals, offensive sets, and defensive sets. Our 1-3-1 has obviously been taking up some practice time.
Poor FT shooting killed the Tigers again.
Missing those four in a row, two by Book and two by Andre, cost them a win.
Also, poor 3 point shooting defense killed them as well. I think Maryland was like 8-11 behind the arc while the tigers at one point were 5-17. Terrible differential.
Free throws were a problem
but another huge problem was Booker jacking up 3’s and long 2’s with 15 seconds left on the clock. He did this at least 4 times, when he should’ve been passing or driving to the basket. If we get those 4 possessions back it could’ve been Maryland taking a last second shot to win or lose instead of us, and if anybody other than #12 is taking that shot, we win.
A lot has been said
about Brownell playing the players who practice the best. I think Booker must be nailing 3s left and right in practice, so BB lets him take them in games. At some point he has to realize that some players practice better than they play, and vice versa.
by PenthouseTiger on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
What options does he really have???
Booker drives me nuts with his marginal effort and mindless play sometimes but BB does not have a viable option for these upper-classmen. The freshmen are solid but freshmen don’t need major roles unless they are exceptional. He needs Booker to develop into at least 80% of what he can be to have success this year and next. He’s in a tough spot with who he has to work with but I think he’s doing a great job. With this talent level, to be able to be in every game, it’s a real credit to his abilities to coach and devise a successful strategy. Just needs to figure out how to win some of these close games.

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