Position Analysis: Jeff Scott and the Wide Receivers
Jeff Scott, born in 1980, was again the youngest member of the 2010 Clemson football staff. Scott's football bio in a nutshell: Jeff is the son of Clemson OL coach Brad Scott. Jeff was the holder at Clemson in the early 2000's. His college coaching career began in ‘07 at Presbyterian College as the receivers coach. Scott came back to Clemson as a Graduate Assistant, and was promoted to Wide Receiver's coach when Tom Bowden and Rob Spence got fired mid-way through the ‘08 season. Additionally, JS held the title of Recruiting Coordinator for the past two years.
Clemson returned basically all but one receiver from the 2009 campaign. Unfortunately for the Tigers, the receiver who departed was Clemson's best WR target a year ago, current Raider's WR and former CU track star Jacoby Ford. Among those who played significantly in '09 and returned for the '10 season are Xavier Dye, Brandon Clear, Terrance Ashe, and Marquan Jones.
We rate Coach J. Scott and the 2010 group of Wide Receivers in three key areas:
- Recruiting - Scott has the additional title of Recruiting Coordinator
- Passing production, keeping in mind QB performance.
- Blocking
Here is our annual side note on the role of the recruiting coordinator and Jeff‘s responsibilities here at Clemson in particular:
Jeff Scott has the additional title of Recruiting Coordinator, meaning most fans will put the success of the recruiting class on his shoulders when it does well. This is actually not a totally correct assumption, as the coordinator is merely that, a coordinator/director of recruiting. It's an administrative title that doesn't carry the power of an offensive or defensive coordinator. He does not decide directly who we go offer or who goes after them, that decision is one made by the full staff with approval from Swinney. However, he does have a say in how the recruiting territories are decided/divided up amongst the coaching staff. It is important to remember that each coach has a specific region to recruit. The position coach does not recruit only players to his own position.
Each player offered by the offensive staff is seen by the entire offensive staff and the coordinator and relevant position coach decide who gets an offer. This Clemson staff is far more deliberate in how they go about deciding who gets a Clemson offer.
What does the RC actually do? He is responsible for weeding through some film on players from HS coaches who want their guys looked at. The film goes to him first. He maintains the staff database on prospects and compiles their information, and handles any kind of transcript/academic issues with the AARC. In actual recruiting, he keeps tabs on what each coach is doing on the road, handling flights/travel, itineraries for coaches and official visits, assigns player-hosts, and the like. He deserves credit, but giving it all to him would not be right. Most credit should go to the actual recruiter and the head coach, who must close on a prospect.
This year's class ranking by the "experts" tells you how this staff performed bringing in top talent. I am awed at the ability of this group to weather loads of turmoil and still pull in big names and legit talent. As stated above, the praise should not be completely given to the recruiting coordinator for a great class. This year's effort in spite of all the adversity surrounding the program, however, did not go unnoticed and Jeff was a big part of the success. I'll need to point out that a few of the guys Scott is credited with were initially approached by other coaches, so JS did have some help. However, we were pleased with Scott's ability to pick up slack caused by the departure of several members of the '10 coaching staff and bring these guys into the CU family.
Jeff Scott has been on the recruiting scene since his days as a graduate assistant and as the wide receivers coach, we expect him -- like the running backs coach -- to be a stand out recruiter. Here is how Jeff has performed since being upgraded from GA to assistant following Tom Bowden's departure (note that the McNeal recruitment was started as a GA):
|
NAME |
Position |
Hometown |
High School |
Ht/Wt/40 |
Rivals Rating |
Assigned Recruiter(s) |
Class |
|
Roderick Byers |
DE |
Rock Hill, SC |
Northwestern |
6'4"/262/NA |
3 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2011 |
|
Cortez Davis |
DB |
Daytona Beach, FL |
Mainland |
6'3"/200/NA |
4 stars |
Chris Rumph, Charlie Harbison, Jeff Scott |
2011 |
|
Kevin Dodd |
DT |
Greer, SC |
Riverside |
6'5"/277/4.8 |
3 stars |
Jeff Scott/Powell |
2011 |
|
Adam Humphries |
DB |
Roebuck, SC |
Dorman |
5'11"/176/4.5 |
2 stars |
Jeff Scott/Dabo |
2011 |
|
Ammon Lakip |
K |
Alpharetta, GA |
Chattahoochee |
5'11"/175/NA |
2 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2011 |
|
Charone Peake |
WR |
Roebuck, SC |
Dorman |
6'3"/200/4.4 |
4 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2011 |
|
Tony Steward |
LB |
St Augustine, FL |
Pedro Menendez |
6'2"/225/NA |
5 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2011 |
|
DT |
Jacksonville, FL |
First Coast |
6'5"/250/NA |
4 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2010 |
|
|
ATH |
Gaffney, SC |
Gaffney |
6'0"/170/4.4 |
3 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2010 |
|
|
OL |
Chester, SC |
Chester |
6'5"/325/5.1 |
3 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2010 |
|
|
WR |
Minneapolis, MN |
Breck |
6'2"/170/4.5 |
4 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2009 |
As you can readily see, Jeff is charged with much of the Upstate, a portion of Florida and Georgia. We expect that his duties in SW Florida will be expanded with the retirement of his father, since this was Brad's territory. We have heard varying thoughts that his father's off-field position will somehow be involved with recruiting and taking away some of the load that the RC does with respect to transcripts, film, itineraries, etc.
In the above table, for this cycle, it should be pointed out that Davis was (mostly) a Rumph recruit initially and the closing was reinforced by Harbison/Scott. Adam Humphries was a Dabo offer and since he had no other offers, it is fair to say he'd have come here no matter what.
We should also note that Jeff was involved with his father in the recruitment of standout WR Sammy Watkins for the 2011 class, an impressive haul for anyone.
2010 ON-FIELD OVERVIEW
2010 was a new year yet the story overall was still the same: Our receivers as a whole were painful to watch. Like '09, Clemson had one dependable receiver and a group of other players that had trouble making big plays when the opportunity arose. Clemson built some depth with Hopkins being the go-to guy and Brown bringing in over 30 balls, but that is not enough. The majority of receiver production came through Hopkins/Brown and nearly all of 2010 production was a product of four underclassmen receivers. Clemson must do a better job of developing talent at this position and getting better production as players mature.
As a collective group, our receivers are not great blockers and definitely have issues catching the football. Why is it that we have but ONE receiver who appears to know what he is doing and can execute these skills at the receiver position? And why is it that this player is a TRUE FRESHMAN?
Our senior scholarship receiver did not properly develop over the past four years and was benched a few games into the '10 season. Other receivers often gave little effort on running plays and were caught on National TV simply standing around. This is not acceptable and has been an issue at Clemson for quite a while now. I will say that I am thrilled overall with DeAndre Hopkins. I hope that our staff can motivate the other receivers to play as inspired as Nuke. I also hope the other receivers pay attention to Nuke's effort running routes, blocking, and catching the football and learn something from the True Freshman.
Route running, again, was overall poor to average. We were overall NOT impressed with the crispness of our receiver's routes nor were we particularly enthused about how our receivers got off the line of scrimmage. The receivers tipped defenders with movements at the snap of the football. The explosion off the LOS needs to be consistent during both running and passing plays. Routes have to be run with purpose and less rounded.
Pass catching was an up and down affair for the Tigers. We told you coming into the year that we expected this group to cost us a game which they definitely did. Clemson could have beaten Auburn without all the dropped passes and would have been in much better shape against Miami had the Clemson receivers caught the balls that hit their hands. The Tiger receivers improved this area during the middle of the season then returned to their early-season form against South Carolina.
Pass catching, like most everything else, is dependent on repetition. So when you wonder why some guys are great at this in HS and not at Clemson, you should see the root culprit readily. Pass catching should be second nature to a receiver, allowing the WR to focus on items like attacking the football at its highest point and making the highlight reel catches. As a group, the Tigers are far from highlight material and have trouble making routine plays. Overall not acceptable, particularly with a struggling quarterback who loses more and more confidence with each dropped pass.
Overall pass production from this group is simple to grade -- not acceptable. Dropped passes and Clemson's inability by the receivers (other than Nuke) to be a viable offensive threat hindered the passing game. While you cannot blame all of our passing woes on the WR's, they do shoulder their fair share of the blame, as the stats show. We hope to someday be to the point where we talk about how the receivers can elevate their play to from good to great/great to elite but we aren't even close.
To illustrate how poor our pass production (receivers) was in '10, three players (thanks ESPN) had more yards individually than all our receivers combined-Clemson's WRs accounted for 1613 total yards for 124 YPG through the air. Greg Salas (14 games, 119 receptions, 1889 yards, for 134.9 YPG), Justin Blackmon (12 games, 111 receptions, 1782 yards, for 148.5 YPG), and Ryan Broyles (14 games, 131 receptions, 1622 yards, for 115.9 YPG) each had more yards individually than our team receivers. I will also note South Carolina's best receiver, Alshon Jeffery (14 games, 88 receptions, 1517 yards, for 108.4 YPG), almost caught Clemson's crew. You will notice that two played 14 games-opposed to CU's 13-but I still expect our team effort to eclipse these numbers.
Wide Receiver blocking, again, was below average/average at best. The big items that stick out are the flares and screen passes that were flat out blown up and/or the interceptions on such plays caused by missed/ineffective WR blocking. Perimeter blocking revolves around three basic concepts: technique, desire, and quality repetition.
Quality repetition is built upon one glaring item: PRACTICE STRATEGY. Having your squad DBs or reserve WRs used in blocking drills is not exactly the highest quality. The Tigers don't do a good job blocking on the perimeter and, on the flip side, struggle defensively getting off perimeter blocks. Put two and two together and you quickly realize that Clemson does not practice open-field blocking/defensive shed drills physically enough. Since the WR's need improvement open-field blocking and the defenders need improvement getting off blocks, why not put the best on the best and have the WR's/DB's fight it out each practice session? Make these two groups get after it; make blocking a source of pride and I'll guarantee you better results.
The big item that I did not like was the apparent lack of effort shown in some running situations. Our receivers looked like they were going through the motions on many run plays, which is unacceptable. Standing around is also unacceptable. Blocking is an attitude based on desire. Anyone can be a good blocker, they just have to put in the effort and have the aspiration. The talent level of the WR in question does not matter when it comes to blocking. Xavier Dye and Ashe should execute blocks with the same effort and tenacity as Hopkins, and they do not.
That falls on their WR coaches during their time here: Dabo Swinney and Jeff Scott.
We saw plenty of bad technique. Our receivers block with poor leverage and were out of position for a good portion of the season. WR's need to improve on getting off the LOS in the same fashion as a pass play, break down, and seal. We often block at a high pad level. A better job breaking down would get our receivers lower than the defender and create a better leverage point. Attitude/effort and repetition drives technique, so getting the guys excited about blocking is the first step.
|
No. |
Name |
Position |
Height |
Weight |
Class |
Hometown |
|
13 |
WR |
5-10 |
195 |
FR |
ORLANDO, FL |
|
|
87 |
Terrance Ashe |
WR |
6-2 |
190 |
SR |
CHERAW, SC |
|
18 |
WR |
6-2 |
195 |
SO |
CHERAW, SC |
|
|
85 |
Brandon Clear |
WR |
6-5 |
210 |
JR |
HOOVER, AL |
|
81 |
Joe Craig |
WR |
5-10 |
170 |
FR |
GAFFNEY, SC |
|
25 |
WR |
5-6 |
145 |
FR |
CHARLOTTE, NC |
|
|
21 |
Xavier Dye |
WR |
6-5 |
205 |
SR |
GREENWOOD, SC |
|
88 |
WR |
6-2 |
185 |
FR |
JOHNSON CITY, TN |
|
|
47 |
WR |
5-11 |
195 |
SO |
MARIETTA, GA |
|
|
6 |
DeAndre Hopkins |
WR |
6-1 |
195 |
FR |
CENTRAL, SC |
|
26 |
Marquan Jones |
WR |
6-0 |
195 |
JR |
COLUMBIA, SC |
|
7 |
Bryce McNeal |
WR |
6-1 |
175 |
FR |
MINNEAPOLIS, MN |
|
No. |
NAME |
POS |
G-S |
Rec |
Yards |
Y/Rec |
Rec/G |
Y/G |
TD |
20+ |
LG |
|
85 |
Brandon Clear |
WR |
12-0 |
3 |
106 |
35.3 |
0.3 |
8.8 |
1 |
2 |
70 |
|
7 |
Bryce McNeal |
WR |
12-3 |
19 |
187 |
9.8 |
1.6 |
15.6 |
0 |
4 |
30 |
|
6 |
DeAndre Hopkins |
WR |
12-8 |
52 |
637 |
12.3 |
4.3 |
53.1 |
4 |
8 |
45 |
|
18 |
Jaron Brown |
WR |
12-10 |
32 |
405 |
12.7 |
2.7 |
33.8 |
3 |
6 |
74 |
|
26 |
Marquan Jones |
WR |
13-3 |
21 |
184 |
8.8 |
1.6 |
14.2 |
0 |
1 |
38 |
|
87 |
Terrance Ashe |
WR |
11-0 |
1 |
43 |
43 |
0.1 |
3.9 |
0 |
1 |
43 |
|
21 |
Xavier Dye |
WR |
11-4 |
4 |
51 |
12.8 |
0.4 |
4.6 |
0 |
0 |
18 |
|
Totals |
-- |
132 |
1613 |
12.22 |
10.15 |
124 |
8 |
22 |
74 |
Joe Craig: Craig was redshirted in 2010 as expected because he was underutilized as a WR at Gaffney and was very raw as a receiver. He added around 10 pounds since arriving at Clemson, putting him around 165 lbs. Preferably he'll be over 170-175 before next football season. Joe is a speed guy (4A state 200m track champion, 2nd in the 100m) who has impressed the staff with his ability to get into and out of cuts very quickly. He has been described as a mixture of Chansi Stuckey and Jacoby Ford and, while not quite on the same level as Ford on a pure speed basis, is further along as a football player than Ford was after one year in school.
We fully expect Craig to get good looks this spring as he moves from the scout team to the two-deep roster. We also anticipate Craig pushing for significant playing time in 2011, receiving most of his reps in the slot position. The offensive staff is excited about implementing him into Morris' spread attack. Look for Clemson to get the ball to Joe in various ways over the 2011 season, especially through running reverses and especially the sweep.
We predict you'll see Joe Craig make a definite impact on the jet sweep this fall.
DeAndre Hopkins: Hopkins is easily the biggest bright spot of this group and appears to be just about the only receiver on the field who knows and cares about what he is doing continually. Hopkins was able to come in and play at a high level as a freshman, without much coaching, eventually starting seven of the eleven regular season games in which he played. Nuke showed off his pure athleticism and skills as the season progressed and emerged as Clemson's best receiver.
Nuke was the offensive glimmer of hope this season after Ellington's injury. Hopkins hauled in 43 catches for 532 yards and 4 touchdowns in the regular season. Nuke added 8 catches for 94 yards in the Meineke Car Care Bowl to cap off an impressive Freshman campaign. Nuke additionally appears to be the best blocking receiver that the Tigers have on the roster, and its not because of size or technique, but because he is a football player who likes to hit -- effort and desire.
Hopkins joined the basketball team following the Bowl, taking a little of his off-season focus away from football. We were really excited about Nuke getting a full offseason to focus solely on increasing game knowledge through extensive film study and training only for football. Nuke needs to add weight, and you don't do that while playing basketball. Thus, we were a little disappointed in the basketball thing but understand that he likes to play ball and Clemson desperately needs such players on their basketball roster.
We expect Hopkins to spend a large portion of his post-basketball off-season in the weight room and studying the new Clemson offense. Nuke is a tremendous talent who, if he can pick up a little more football-related strength and continue to build his game knowledge, will be a legitimate superstar for the duration of his Clemson career. Hopkins was easily the best newcomer to the football program for '10 and was the best roster receiver and we look forward to seeing him over the next couple seasons.
Jaron Brown: Brown fought his way into the starting lineup and, along with Hopkins, has emerged as a legitimate receiving threat. Jaron, as we have repeatedly emphasized, has a ton of raw talent and still needs some work to become a star but has made strides over the past year or so. Brown had two pretty big games on the season at North Carolina (4 catches, 107 yards, 1 TD) and at Wake Forest (5 catches, 93 yards, 1 TD). Brown's season highlights have to be a big 74 yard TD against the Tarheels and a 40 yard TD grab against Wake at the end of the 1st half. Brown had four additional catches for over 20 yards on the season and caught three balls for 40 yards during the bowl game. Unfortunately, Jaron also had a couple of catchable balls slip through his hands in 2010--most notably in Auburn OT period and against South Carolina.
I will say that I was very disappointed with Brown's blocking, particularly in the bowl game. There were a host of screen passes that were blown up because of missed blocks. JB (and many of the other wide outs) will need to improve in this area if we want to run or throw screens to his side of the field.
Jaron has the agile moves to keep his job, but if he doesn't commit himself, he will lose his starting outside position to one of the incoming players.
Xavier Dye: The senior had a very disappointing season to say the least, losing his starting role and most of his playing time to younger guys midway through the year. Dye was unable to take advantage of many opportunities he was given early in the 2010 season. His drop of a sure touchdown against Miami was the big one that finally pushed the staff to pull Dye from competitive action. Dye played in 10 regular season contests, starting four of them. Xavier caught 4 passes in these 10 games for a total of 51 yards and no touchdowns. Dye's playing time decreased dramatically over the course of the season and his departure should have few adverse effects on the 2011 Clemson passing game.
Marquan Jones: The Junior from Columbia had an average year for the Tigers, starting 3 of the 12 regular season games in which he played. Jones contributed with 20 catches for 146 yards before and had one catch for 38 yards against South Florida in the bowl game. Jones' biggest game was against North Carolina State where Jones led all receivers with six receptions, accounting for 47 yards. Marquan showed his versatility when used during the year to fill in following a couple of injuries to Jaron Brown and Hopkins.
We expect Jones to contribute more next season and think that he has positioned himself to be able to make consistent plays for this offense. As a SR, Marquan will have had three full seasons in a college offense, so we expect him to have adequate offensive knowledge AND have developed skills to be reliable in 2011.
Otherwise, he'll continue to be the most invisible man on the field, and will definitely lose his job. Of any projected starter, Marquan is in the most precarious position.
Bryce McNeal: McNeal had a rather lackluster (RS) Freshman campaign, starting three of the eleven games he played in this season. McNeal had 19 grabs for 187 yards on the season. McNeal used his red shirt last season to learn the Clemson offense. This new system should be even easier to pick up than the last because of the lack of multiple sight adjustments. Bryce is listed at 6-1, 175 lbs and will need to bulk up a little more in order to have a great career at Clemson. McNeal garnered comparisons to Derrick Hamilton upon arrival in Tigertown but still has a long way to go to become that kind of superstar. As we discussed before, McNeal is a quick and speedy receiver who is quick to get off the football and elusive after making a catch. 2011 will be McNeal's third season in Clemson and we expect to see more output from the Redshirt Sophomore as he has been in a college system, has extensive experience on the practice squad/Clemson two deep roster, and gained critical playing experience during the 2010 season.
Brandon Clear: The Hoover native had three catches for 103 total yards and a touchdown on the season. Clear's biggest catch was a 70 yard reception against North Texas for his first career TD. Additionally, Clear had a catch against Wake Forest and a catch versus Presbyterian. We hoped that Clemson was going to utilize his 6'5" 210 lb frame but has yet to do so in the passing game. If he's back, we suspect Clear will have another season with minimal catches in 2011, especially given Clemson's young receiver talent. His move to Corner may or may not stick, but we have given up on him realizing his potential.
Terrance Ashe: The former walk-on and 2010 Senior had a very unimpressive 2010 season. We praised him last year for his blocking, but he didn't even do that well this fall. Ashe dropped some big passes and, similar to Dye, saw his playing time and looks in the passing game decrease dramatically. The Cheraw native suffered a season ending injury at Wake Forest. Ashe had one catch for 43 yards on the season.
2011 Recruiting Class
|
NAME |
Position |
Hometown |
High School |
Ht/Wt/40 |
Rivals Rating |
Assigned Recruiter(s) |
Class |
|
Martavis Bryant |
WR |
Chatham, VA |
Hargrave Military Academy |
6'4"/195/NA |
4 stars |
Brad Scott |
2011 |
|
Charone Peake |
WR |
Roebuck, SC |
Dorman |
6'3"/200/4.4 |
4 stars |
Jeff Scott |
2011 |
|
Stanton Seckinger |
WR |
Charleston, SC |
Porter Gaud School |
6'5"/200/4.6 |
3 stars |
Dan Brooks |
2011 |
|
Sammy Watkins |
WR |
Fort Myers, FL |
South Fort Myers |
6'1"/180/4.5 |
5 stars |
Brad Scott |
2011 |
Martavis Bryant (T.L. Hanna) may have been the most talented commitment on Clemson's board a year ago. After a year at Hargrave, Martavis is primed to be at Clemson before Summer Sessions begin. Bryant is extremely skilled and many expect him to come in and contribute immediately. At 6-4 184 lbs, Bryant runs a 4.41 40 yard dash. With this his speed and size, MB is definitely a deep threat and you will see him playing outside (flanker or split end). Bryant has a long stride and the staff will probably work on his mechanics getting off the football and up to full speed. If there are concerns for the CU staff, they include the need for Bryant to get stronger and improve his blocking skills. We all know that the weight room and training table forms these guys out of high school, so I would expect to see a little more weight on MB before it is all said and done. We hope Bryant's blocking technique can be refined through drills and proper instruction (I don't see a guy with his frame and quickness lacking the ability to block, so we are pretty confident that tweeking his technique should be what is necessary).
We expect him to be an outside receiver and given the extra year at Hargrave, he's unlikely to redshirt.
Charone Peake was the best South Carolina receiver to come out in 2011. The Roebuck native has nice size (6'3", 200 lbs) and good speed (4.4 second 40 yard dash). He'll play outside in college as well. Peake reportedly sports a 3.5 GPA so we expect him to learn the Clemson offense early and get good looks during August camp. In addition to Peake's size and speed, Charone has a knack of playing the ball well, attacking the football and catching it at its highest point. Like most freshmen, time in the weight room will be important for CP as he needs to improve upper body strength. The lower body strength is there already. We also hope Peake will focus on improving his blocking skills in addition to other aspects of his game.
Sammy Watkins was one of the best players in America and may be the best player coming out of Florida this year. Watkins is the total package, having decent size and speed but also the pure skills to do it all at the wide receiver position. He's a very physical WR for that size. Watkins is a guy who can turn a routine short pass into a huge gain AND has the ability to stretch a defense to make things happen downfield. Sammy is probably the most hyped receiver commitment since Roscoe Crosby and we expect him to increase offensive productivity early in his career. Given his size and moves, he is likely going to start out in the slot, so McNeal and Jones better work hard to keep their PT.
We are expecting Clemson to use at least 3, and at many times 4, WRs in any set next fall, so there will be two slot positions.
Stanton Seckinger, a Charleston native, is a project guy but has nice size. Because of this size, we would not be shocked to see the staff consider a position change, possibly to TE. He is intelligent as well, an underrated quality for football. Currently, Coach Scott and Morris have talked about utilizing Stanton at either X or Z (traditionally the flanker and split end positions) in Morris' spread attack. Depending on how all the numbers shake out, we believe that Seckinger may be a grey shirt candidate. The two colleges giving him formal offers were Clemson and NC State.
2011 OUTLOOK
Clemson certainly has a talented group of receivers entering school, returning from 2010, and coming off of a redshirt season. Clemson loses former walk-on Terrance Ashe and Xavier Dye to graduation. These departures should have minimal impact on 2011 as both of these guys saw their snaps decrease dramatically as the '10 season progressed. We (obviously) expect Nuke to be the go-to guy as he was clearly the class of the Clemson group and ahead of his peers during game competition. Jaron Brown will be used more and we anticipate that he will get more deep shots, especially after Morris promised to throw more passes downfield. Bryce McNeal and Marquan Jones will get their fair share of quality snaps in 2011. McNeal currently backs him up at A, but we do see Watkins and McNeal being on the field in dual slots. We fully expect the staff to incorporate Joe Craig into this offense, both catching and running the ball.
| Z | A | H | X |
| Jaron Brown | Marquan Jones | Bryce McNeal | Nuke Hopkins |
| Martavis Bryant | Sammy Watkins | Joe Craig | Charone Peake |
| Stanton Seckinger* | Brandon Clear |
*-assuming no RS
Martavis Bryant is a guy that we will be anxiously watching as the season approaches. Bryant has game-changer type talent but spent 2010 in prep school and probably will not be in Clemson until the summer, which severely limits his ability to grow through winter workouts, spring practice, and through film study.
We are obviously geeked up about Charone Peake and Sammy Watkins. These guys are legit and will be important to this program over the next couple years. The incoming receiver class of Bryant, Peake, and Watkins may be one of the best in the program's history. We are optimistic that this influx of highly touted and skilled receivers combined with a talent upgrade through the 2010 recruiting class will equate to more production in the passing game.
OVERALL
We are less than impressed with the development of our wide receivers over the past half-decade or so. Xavier Dye is a perfect example of a guy who came to school with clout and high expectations but never was developed while he was here. This is not a new problem at receiver (or Clemson in general) and is indicative of coaches not effectively evolving athletes into football players. We are particularly disappointed with lackluster play and the inability of this staff to correct player errors over the course of a season. Further, the inability to recognize that Hopkins was Clemson's best receiver and incorporate him into the game plan EARLIER in the season disturbs us. This problem compounds itself when the staff takes snaps he could have taken and gives them to players who have underperformed for 2-3 years and play like they don't give a damn (Dye).
We are, however, encouraged by Jeff's abilities on the recruiting trail. Scott--and the rest of the staff--hit a homerun on NSD bringing in a stellar class despite a really bad 2010 season and staff changes a month before signing day. Pulling guys like Charone Peake and Tony Steward was nice. The versatility shown to work well with other coaches to preserve and build this class in the face of adversity was impressive.
Again we come back to our belief that no offensive staff member should be retained. For the performance of our WRs over 2 years, Jeff Scott has done an awful job. We view Coach Scott in the same light we viewed Coach Swinney when he was a receivers coach. The guy established himself as a great recruiter but has yet to produce through position players, particularly when you evaluate the group's technique. I still think that Jeff's career path would be improved on an offensive staff that better emphasizes overall technique than last season's, and in our opinion should be moved to RB Coach (where there is considerably less to teach and he can recruit all day) and have Elliott moved to WRs. Hopefully the addition of Caldwell and Morris' less complex passing game will help the receivers to practice and play better, because you cannot outrecruit bad coaching. We also hope that Scott can keep up the momentum established with the '11 class on the recruiting trail. I don't know that I can take another football season with such bad wide receiver play.
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I'm not sure the jury is in on JS yet...
Certainly by judging him on his body of work right now, this is in no way a passing grade.
However, I think the production of Hopkins, Brown, McNeal and the ’11 WR class will determine whether or not he can develop talent.
We are only three years removed from the very productive Kelly, Grisham, and Ford combo. There weren’t a lot of meaningful snaps for backups then and guys like Nelson Faerber and Ashe were taking some of those snaps away from Dye and Jones as well.
Isn’t is correct to say that Ford, Ashe, and Dye’s development was essentially the responsibility of a different guy (Dabo)? Not to mention that Ford was excellent, Ashe doesn’t have a lot of natural ability to work with, and Dye has been a bust since day one and had mental issues (quit the team) to boot.
These aren’t excuses for JS…it’s just possible though that it may not have mattered who the WR coach was this year. We were rebuilding.
We have clearly had some misses in WR evaluation and were thin on talent. Some of our guys could not do basic things that you’re already supposed to know how to do before you get here (like catch the football).
This year, we must put a better product on the field at WR than we have the past two years and I think Scott should be held accountable if were aren’t markedly improved in ’11.
Recruiting A+, WR play F-
Our receivers were bad. Period. The pervious year, they were also bad, with the exception of one senior with world class speed.
SO many drops. When guys consistently miss routine type catches (not talking about the spectacular highlight reel ones) then something is wrong, and then you look at the WR coach.
So unless something dramatic changes, I’m not too optimistic because the same guy is still there.
I’m hoping maybe they give Elliot a shot at coaching the WRs and move Scott around. Clearly he has value in the recruiting game but…
However, it’s possible that that last year’s group was simply problematic, and there was nothing much he could do about it. If Dye hadn’t leaned (remembered?) how to catch a football by his senior season, it’s a lost cause.
I think last year's class was problematic
But then what should a good WR coach do with that. He needs to recognize quickly that it’s not just not going to work with those guys and get someone in there who actually wants to play. That is another huge element of this, how ponderously slow we were in putting those other guys in there.
If a 3-star like Dye can stink after 4 years and 4-star like Hopkins can be great as a true freshman...
you gotta wonder how much is coaching and how much is natural ability and desire.
These Clemson Coaches are the greatest ever!
They need to give all of them very long contract extensions. The Future of Clemson Football has never looked Brighter!
You've got to look at recruiting....
From 2007, the highest rated receiver (according to Rivals) was 4 star Markish Jones (who never made it in), followed by 3 stars Brandon Clear and Xavier Dye. In 2008, the highest rated receiver was 4 stars Brandon Ford (has moved to TE) and Marquan Jones followed by 3 star Athlete, Jaron Brown. From 2009, we only had 12 recruits total and 4 star Bryce McNeal was the only receiver taken. From 2010, we got 4 stars Martavis Bryant and Nuke Hopkins, followed by 3 star Joe Craig. Bryant didn’t qualify and Craig red-shirted.
When a walk-on earns major PT (playing time) the way Ashe did, you have obviously missed on recruiting targets. I think its obvious at this point that Clear, Dye, Ford, and Jones haven’t lived up to their potential. Brown was clearly under-rated, and time will tell about McNeal. Of these 6 mentioned above, 4 were at best over-rated, at worst, busts. That’s 66% of your scholarship, upperclassman Wide Receivers not making positive contributions.
Not saying Scott isn’t to blame, but I think talent (or lack thereof) is definitely part of the equation.
Recruiting WR's
I think WR may be one of the trickiest positions to recruit overall, based on the fact that HS DB’s for the most part are not very good in technique and often undersized. Add that to the fact that you are on an island breakaway touchdowns are very common.
Guys like Clear and Dye who are 6’4+ of course they will destroy most of the high school competition when moderately atheltic guys are like 5’8"-5’11 trying to guard them, and in most cases a HS pass rush isn’t very prevalent, the QB can take 3 steps and just throw it up.
I think Jaron Brown is playing at the level of a 3 star recruit. Makes the occasional big play (that to us clemson fans looks AMAZING giving the surrounding lack of ability to make the regular play), but he also takes plays off and doesn’t appear to be the hardest worker, just relies on natural ability. The type of 3 star that he is represents a guy who has the tools, and with good coaching and the right work ethic could be an all-conference type player by his SR year.
Bryce McNeal I think will be good with more time, I mean the kid grew up and played ball in Minnesota, this will be his third year in the south where its just a whole different ball game, completely. Look at his HS highlight tape his competition was not very good.
Hopkins is a legit 4-star. Catches with his HANDS unless completely impossible to do so, Makes 1-handed grabs, doesn’t freeze up in clutch situations, and also in his mind he doesn’t see a pass that he feels he can’t catch (hence the practice injury). If he was 6-3 or a step faster he would have been a 5-star. Sorry for the long post.
by scgreatest803 on Feb 15, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Which shifts blame to Swinney, since he offered that bunch.
Instead of offering Darvin Adams, who would’ve committed to Clemson, we get Brandon Ford.
Dabo wouldn’t offer Alshon Jeffery because “he is too slow”. Um OK. It wouldn’t have done us much good to offer but don’t tell me Jeffery isnt worth one.
Getting open and making tough catches or running past people requires talent, of course. Unfortunately making easy catches, running routes properly, and basically giving a shit about your blocking does not. Thats coaching.
Ford is the definition of slow. Can’t believe he was offered and not Jeffery.
I would agree that making easy catches and running proper routes are coach-able points, but talent is also part of that equation. As for not blocking….I can’t understand why the coaches left them in the game. Surely a walk-on wanted some PT and was willing to throw some decent blocks.
Swinney would have been the position coach (same as Scott now). Not sure he deserves all the credit for recruiting these guys, and evaluating/scouting the talent before offering. I would think Bowden and Spence had as much or maybe more to do with it.
The over-all point I was trying to make is that there is a definite difference in talent coming in as opposed to what was on the roster last year. Scott’s ability to coach that talent should be interesting to watch. Hopefully, he (and therefore Clemson) will succeed.
Big difference in the offer process for our staff now vs under Bowden.
Back then a position coach could offer a player without consulting anyone.
Now the entire staff approves offers with the HC’s blessing.
never heard that he was not offered due to lack of speed . if so then it proves that these coaches are lazy and not able to develop talent because it does not take world class speed to run by a defender . the first thing wo’s should be taught is how to read hips , feet and how to properly fight for space . if these three basic things are taught and learned properly then most wo’s will be productive .
No one here is complaining about a lack of Sportscenter-like plays. We are critical of catchable passes dropped and basic fundamentals. If you are a scholarship receiver anywhere, you should be able to bring in passes that hit you in the chest.
Maybe the Spence-based Napier/Swinney offense was too complex and confused the guys, but I still don’t see how that is directly related to dropped passes and/or poor technique.
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I think your point actually proves that coaching is responsible
Clear and Dye were high 3-star recruits that never amounted to anything.
Ford was a 4-star that was moved to TE because he wasn’t going to see the field as a WR.
Jones was a highly regarded 4-star that hasn’t done anything.
McNeal was a Rivals100 guy, and quite honestly, he looked lost last year.
We’ve brought in plenty of talented guys. So what is more realistic: we only recruit busts? or good athletes aren’t getting the coaching they deserve? When I see a pattern like this I tend to lean towards the latter.
I agree, its not like we are playing with absolutely no talent at WR. It's piss poor coaching,
starting with Dabo followed by Jeff Scott. Marquan Jones, McNeal, Dye, Clear, Brandon Ford. There’s some talent in there, but got absolutely nothing from in on the field. Piss poor coaching!
A Few Thoughts
The WR play was painful to watch in 2010. How much of that is Jeff Scott’s fault is debatable. As position coach, some of it is certainly on him. I think receiving skills are mainly gift.s. The poor blocking and discipline are symptomatic of the entire program, which ultimately falls on the head coach.
J. Scott won a championship as a high school head coach, and has done well as rec coord. So, I think he has some talents. As former WR coaches, both Swinney and Woody McCorvey should be able to assist Scott in teaching techniques. It is part of their job to “coach the coaches”.
Well we now have 4 WR coaches around.
Elliott is new, WoodyMac, Dat Boy, and Jeff.
If WRs continue to suck, someone should just be shot.
Good Point....
With all the incoming talent , they should ALL be shot if WRs still suck.
Can you coach hands?
Our receivers in 2010 dropped/ barely touched a ton of catchable balls… even Hopkins. So is that on Jeff Scott or on the kids’ talent? Disregard the route running and desire… how much impact does coaching actually have on simply catching a football?
by beentrying on Feb 15, 2011 11:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They have drills to improve hand-eye coordination
Catching a ball by leaping over a safety or doing it one-handed is talent. Getting yourself open requires talent.
Everything else can be drilled. There is never a reasonable excuse for not fighting for a catchable ball or flat out missing one that hits you in the chest.
pass catching, particularyly routine pass catching is reinforced through repetition. Yes, there are tons of pass catching drills. While I agree that some players have better “natural hands”, we are frustrated with the catchable balls that are dropped, not the circus catches. This is no different than catching a routine fly-ball in baseball.
I don’t believe this is an issue of talent, but more of a lack of focus and lack of practice repetition.
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Makes sense... and I agree.
But my next question is: if our WR coaches are so obviously worthless, as evidenced by the last 2 seasons, why did three of the top WR recruits in the country choose us?? Can they not see the lack of coaching and player development at their position? I cannot believe Dat Boy is so good at recruiting that top talent will follow him to a black hole position that most likely sacrifices their future potential…
Question of the century.
Is how anyone could hold onto a #8 class after tanking the entire season.
Dabo is just a great recruiter, there is no other explanation. He probably threw some current players under the bus to the recruits for their performances this year. I know he believes in his heart that he can recruit his way out of our WR problems.
Dabo's got plenty of feathers in his cap to use, fellas.
Let’s not forget that we had a player on the All ACC 1st or 2nd team just about every year Dabo was our WR coach. No team in the conference in that time period had as many WRs honored as us.
He turned a guy we recruited as a QB into an All ACC and NFL WR. He developed a two star WR into the ACC’s all time leader in receptions. He’s got another 2 star that caught a pass in the NFL this year and yet another WR is on the NFL All Rookie team. Is there a current coaching staff in Florida/ ACC/ SEC that can show recruits this kind of sustained track record of WR development?
We’re going to get WRs. Can we get the linemen?
Thankyou for some sanity.
Don’t talk about how Dabo never developed wide receivers without explaining how he developed Stucky, Grisham, and Kelly, who were our primary recievers under his watch. Also, I believe catching a football or really doing anything on a football field become harder when you are unsure if you are doing the right thing.
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by Tigerplowboy on Feb 17, 2011 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not buying that one.
Being All-ACC WR in a league without any powerful offenses and a dead-in-the-water FSU and Miami doesnt impress me in the least. Usually we only had one WR out of 3 or 4 that could play in any given year, and rarely a consistent playmaker.
Aaron Kelly never once impressed me. He leads the ACC in receptions because he caught 500,000 2-4 yd bubble screens and played 4 years. Had he caught the 100 dropped balls he had as a freshman, his record would be untouchable. He didn’t make big plays.
Feathers in his cap to show, yes, some turned out very good, but not the greatest feathers when I look at them individually.
I dont remember Kelly dropping anything
I remember thinking Kelly had some of the best hands I had ever seen for a freshman, he had some drops later in his career but I really don’t remember many early on. If you have stats to refute me feel free, but I just don’t remember it the same way you do.
by PenthouseTiger on Feb 18, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Our memories don't agree then
because he dropped alot of passes when he first stepped out there.
He’d put his head down, clap his hands and totter back to the huddle every time.
Dr. B, I implore you to revisit the "1st and 35" drive Kelly's freshman year
Also, see his Senior (I think) year where we rode him down the field for the winning FG against SC.
Also, the long tunnel screen Kelly took to the house on that Monday night on Nat’l TV against FSU.
You don’t have to buy the reception record but it is what it is. There have been many more talented WRs that played in predominately running offenses but, Kelly’s got the record. I’m saying it’s a sellable notation to a high school recruit and a feather in Dabo’s cap.

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