The Chad Signs for $1.3 Million
by DrB on Dec 6, 2011 8:44 PM EST
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Terms got out today of the Chads new contract: 1.3M per year for 6 years with a big buyout clause. It has several performance incentives like his last deal. It was 450K for 4. His new deal is currently longer than Swinney's, but you can expect that to change.
While I don't know what the buyout is, I would imagine it drops a good bit after 2013, which I think sets up to be a year that we could possibly push for something bigger than the ACC Championship, given the experience we'll have gained for the freshmen....assuming we bring in some damn OLmen and a new S&C coach.
Once Gus Malzahn takes a head job at Kansas, which I imagine will be this week or next, Chad would become the highest paid assistant in America. Dabo will also get an increase to the median of ACC coaches per his current deal, which I think pushes into the 2.2M range. Clemson's total staff salary in 2009 was 2.7M, and in '12 will be 5.7M.
Don't be surprised if your ticket prices go up again either.
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You have to throw down to get the best coaches . . .
Of course, if I’m paying 50 a ticket I expect 10 wins a year.
Finally!
We are putting our money where are hearts are—to be the best!
i thought...
dabo’s salary would be the top of the acc if he won it and the median when he won the division.
Winning the division
got him the average of all coaches, winning the ACC got him the average of the top 7
by PenthouseTiger on Dec 6, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta pay to play with big boys
This shows we are serious about winning.
by ggggmen08 on Dec 6, 2011 9:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Chad is the Man
I’m surprised they bumped Chad up this much, but probably what it took to keep him from the likes of Oh St and Aub. The only real difference between last year and this one is the Chad and Sammy Watkins. The D was bad .and the OL still sucks.
don't keep us in suspene...what'd they offer?
by T_Lee on Dec 6, 2011 10:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And Tajh caring versus Kyle not caring
by ggggmen08 on Dec 6, 2011 10:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He personally gave up 1 million dollars to come play
So, it is a bit unrealistic to say he didn’t care.
Didn’t play well, yes, but didn’t care…doubtful.
He didn't put in the time and effort to be successful
that’s not caring in my book. He regressed majorly during his second year starting, which isn’t normal. Rolling out and to the right and throwing back across your body to the other side of the field wreaks of a “I don’t give an eff” attitude.
You’re entitled to your opinion though.
I think his Auburn-generated, undiagnosed broken ribs were largely responsible for his "regression", at least for the first month or so.
Then after the season started going down the tubes, I think he started to give up thinking: I came back for a long-shot at the NFL. That’s impossible now. I need to presserve my body for a baseball career.
His Auburn-generated rib injury was not diagnosed as broken at the time, but when the Rockies’ doctors examined him, they found that KP’s ribs had been broken. I’ve played football with bruised ribs and I know how much that hurts. (A LOT!) I’d be surprised if it didn’t affect his throwing, and I’d be shocked if it wasn’t always in the back of his mind that he needed to avoid taking an excruciatingly painful shot— hence the frequent too-early escapes from the pocket and scambles to the safe sideline.
cracked ribs
Have you ever thrown a football with cracked ribs?
Everyone should read the article about Korn and what happened to him with the medical staff at Clemson. Kyle Parker was injured and continued to play because no one bothered to look and check he ribs. Those passes were the result of poor staff work do not lay the blame on Kyle Parker,,, he played the whole season with cracked ribb!
Hard to know if the ribs were cracked all year or were they cracked
from that big hit he took in the USF game. The Rockies doctors found them later in an x-ray.
No. The cracked ribs from the USF game were diagnosed at that time.
The Auburn-cracked ribs were diagnosed later by the Rockies’ doctors.
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2011/may/08/andres-toe-parkers-ribs-and-acc-2011/
Also, playing with cracked ribs is fairly common for QB's to do
Tony Romo has played several games this year with cracked ribs and thrown for over 300 yards in many of them. Its just a pain issue, whether you can deal with it or not. Tape them up good to keep them immobilized and wear a flak jacket.
That explains inexplicable cross field throws and butting heads with your coaches because you know you have the MLB to fall back on
I’m not saying he wasn’t hurt. But he did not put in nearly the amount of work Tajh Boyd did this past year and the results speak for themselves.
Maybe KP didn't study as hard, but he seemed to have more natural ability.
Napier wasn’t half the QB-coach/OC that Chad is, so it would be interesting to see how Kyle would have done under Chad. I wonder if he would have beaten out Tajh. I guess so.
Not normal?
Maybe it’s not “normal” to regress, but it certainly isn’t unheard of. They even have a name for it: the sophomore slump. Cullen Harper certainly suffered this
NAME YEAR TD INT RAT
Cullen Harper 2007 27 6 141.0
Cullen Harper 2008 13 14 126.2
I guess it can be a combination of a lot of things: not trying as hard since you’re the starter, having a worse o-line, a new OC, no run support, poor play calling, poor receivers,…
Now that I think of it, our receiving corps was miserable last year. While Parker may have had some other issues, if he had this year’s receivers instead of last year’s, he would have done a lot better. We definitely wouldn’t have had a losing season. We’ve seen excellent catch after excellent catch this year; last year we saw dropped ball after dropped ball. How good would Tajh look if his receivers were dropping balls like they did last year?
I appreciate Parker coming back last year; I’m just sorry it didn’t work out better for him and Clemson.
He also injured his throwing shoulder
running for the go ahead TD in that heartbreaking loss to Matt Ryan and BC. He never really seemed the same after that…
I’d say after S&C, the medical team needs to be cleaned out next.
The rumor about KP giving up a million dollars was widely spread by Dabo and the athletic department.
But I searched REALLY hard and I was never able to find any confirmation of that from the Parkers or the Rockies that Kyle gave up much if anything to come back and play football. There was one rumor-mill story written by (I think) Baseball America which everybody (the local press, the AD, and Dabo) latched onto and repeated over and over as fact. But every time any of the Parkers were asked about it directly, they all provided suspiciously evasive non-answers. Frankly, I don’t think Parker gave up didley to come back to play football. And even if he did, it was likely because he wanted the chance to make even more money in the NFL— so I think it was merely a risk-reward career decision.
He cared until the hit he took against Auburn
by PenthouseTiger on Dec 7, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I could not agree more
He could have taken the easy road and played BB. He came back and had Auburn on the ropes, and then took that viscious hit. After seeing him huffing it up on the sidelines, I could see BB on his mind. He went through the motions but could not get well in time for it to matter. I’ve had broken ribs and it was 16 months before I could swing a golf club without pain. The thing that pissed me off was that they put him back in during the Auburn game. I guess that Taj was not ready and the coaches knew it……..It lost that game for us…..we had it.
by Beauforttiger on Dec 7, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
We lost that game to Auburn last year because our coaching staff sucked
I’ll always remember watching the Scotts, Dabo, Napier, and Kevin Steele giving each other high-fives before half time and yucking it up on the sideline. They thought we had the game in the bag and that attitude trickled down to the players.
BS - that was a well coached game period
Auburn had the same come from behind run on USC, Arkansas, Alabama, and Georgia and their coaches weren’t yucking it up.
We blew our chance when Parker was about a foot off on a pass to JB and our K missed a gimme in OT.
I respectfully disagree with your disagreement.
Up 17-0 af the half, Napier took his foot off the gas, giving up on the balanced attack that got Clemson the 17 point lead, and trying to run, run, run, run, run-out the clock until Auburn tied it up at 17 late in the 3rd quarter. The coaches also foolishly continued the practice of letting Harper and Ellington evenly split carries, even though Ellington was the clearly superior RB at the time.
I agree and disagree
Our offense was more predictable in the 2nd half but it didn’t cost us the game. How could that have cost us the game when we had a guy wide open in the endzone at the end and a QB that missed a relatively easy throw?
The excellent play calling that built the 17-0 lead counts.
After seeing Auburn do that so many times last year, how can you not give Auburn most of the credit?. They did this to better teams than us and I think that due to fantastic playcalling and gameplan in the first half, we were fortunate to be where we were.
We were nowhere near as good as Alabama last year and they did the same thing to them in an even grander scale. How would you explain that from an Alabama standpoint? Poor coaching? Yucking it up at halftime? What’s the excuse other than giving Auburn credit as the better team? Sometimes coaches can out-scheme and lose to greater players .
Don't think Auburn wins a National Title or goes on that run without winning that game
They lose to us, they may lose 2 or 3 more games.
Beating us and then Sakerlina just upped and upped their confidence. Combine that with a great player and you win one.
by DrB on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
The Auburn that beat Alabama was MUCH better than the Auburn team that beat Clemson.
Auburn improved dramatically during the 2010 season. The week after Auburn beat Clemson, they beat SCar 35-27, but later Auburn crushed SCar in the SECCG 56-17 (one week after edging Alabama 28-27. I think that the November Auburn team would have crushed Clemson too.
I don’t remember the details of the Auburn-Alabama game so I can’t critique any possible coaching errors by Alabama, but I remember the Clemson-Auburn game, and I feel that Clemson’s personnel choices and 3rd-quarter-play-calling cost Clemson the game.
Could Clemson have won if that one TD pass had been thrown better and caught? Yes. Should Napier have called an entire bad quarter of football so that it had to come down to that one play? No? Could Clemson have won with better play-calling? Yes. Where is the OC that called that game? Fired. (Quality Control Manager at Alabama.) It’s nice to call a good half of football. But if you want to beat good teams, you need to call four quarters of good football.
I guess Malzahn called four quarters of good football that game...
either that, or they were the better team. Don’t think Auburn’s 5 straight failed drives to start the game or the 3 points over 3 quarters of football was part of the plan.
But since Kyle didn’t deliver the ball, Malzahn goes on to become the genius and Napier is fired.
I think you guys are being way too nit picky about Napier in that game.
I don't know that Malzahn called 4 good quarters. I only know that Napier called a bad one.
And Napier let Ellington & Harper split carries.
I think Malzahn would have gone on to become the genius once-defeated SEC-champ, BCS champ, and Napier would have gotten fired even if KP completed that pass and Clemson had gone 7-6 instead of 6-7. The play-calling was pretty bad during his tenure, and BC was the nail in the coffin.
Dabier was probably doomed from the get go
I think Napier was in over his head but that the jury is still out on him.
I don’t see Napier being fired by Dabo and hired by Alabama and Saban as validation that he won’t ever get another OC job.
I think Napier’s fate with us was sealed either when he took the job or after the Miami loss when the offense shifted away (most likely out of his hands) from more pro-I (what Napier knows) to more spread (which clearly nobody on staff knew, nor did we have the personnel to run).
On that one day he went toe to toe with Gus Malzahn and in my opinion had the better gameplan and playcalling most of the game. We lost games because of Napier/Dabo last year, but I don’t think Auburn was one of them.
I always said that I thought Napier was smart and might one day become a good OC or HC.
He just needs some seasoning and to have a head coach who wants to run the same pro-I offense.
Disagree with that
Taking ellington out while he averaged 7 yards per clip and putting in The Skirt to run the entire 3rd quarter to get 3, while also abandoning the screen game that ate them in the 1st half, is what lost us that game.
by DrB on Dec 8, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
God, I hate defending that clown. He had the game of his life in the first half. What can you say. The 4th and 1 was terrible, but he’s 235 and should’ve gotten it.
On two passes
I have no problem with him catching the ball.
He wasnt even getting yards when we were pushing Auburn around up front
by DrB on Dec 8, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was odd, as well.
That was a nasty hit, and he was visually in pain on TV. Doesn’t your responsibility for a player’s health come before the chance to win a game? Competitors are always going to want to compete. It’s your job as a coach to make the call about whether he should play or not. It just seems like a lot to risk for a football game. I love football, but no player’s health and well-being is worth the shot at a W.
Anyone else see in the papers
That Barker said something along the lines of “the success of the football program is crucial to the growth of the university”?
Maybe after seeing the positives brought on by success this season, they’re starting to get it.
More likely
just trying to take credit by saying he was behind it all along.
by PenthouseTiger on Dec 6, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait until he sees the positive effect it has on applications and average SAT scores.
It will probably do more to boost Clemson’s academic rating than any of the crap that he pulled to game the USN&WR rankings. (See following study correlating football success with applications for admission.)
by RazzMcTazz on Dec 7, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Someone on staff
mathematically proved that it was pretty much impossible to get to the top 20 solely by improving in measurable categories. Basically to get to the top 20 we have to get the academic types who arbitrarily rank schools to put us higher on their lists in the subjective portion.
by PenthouseTiger on Dec 7, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Dose peple tink futball mayk ye dum...
In that case, I just hope Barker can be seen with the right glass of wine at the right social gathering so that Clemson can be a more reputable academic school.
The Chad deserves every penny
after getting us an ACC Championship , an Orange Bowl , and our first 10 win season in 20 years . Way to go Chad !!!
While the current state of big money and college football isn't great
I am so freakin happy that someone in the admin has decided we need to step up to the big boy table. Don’t get me wrong not that CFB hasn’t been about $ for quite some time now but it just seems it has gotten ridiculous over the past decade. What I think is interesting however is that while one would think this would serve to further the gap between the haves and have nots in reality there is likely more parity than ever in the sport. I will attribute it to the over abundance of high school players and that many of them have superior S&C programs than we currently do.
Enough of that rant I’m pretty pumped we kept the Chad, I really love this guy and if we replace Batson with someone competent and our OL recruits turn out to be guys caldwell can mold then 2013 is shaping up for us to have an epic, and I mean all time epic offense. I was really down on Steele this year but after watching the championship game from the endzone I’m going to take a lot of it back. Hoping he commits to that aggresive blitzing style more often however, I think last years D-line may have changed his mentality a little as I remember more aggresive playcalling in 2009. Just need to close out with one or two blue chippers for this years class, get rid of Batson and hope Dabo continues to grow as a HC and I think our program may actually be heading where we all want it to.
About the contract incentives
Has TDP gotten the message that maybe their contracts should incentivize the coaches to take the USC game a little more seriously?
I just hope TDP doesn't foolishly give Dabo a needless buyout, like he did with Tommy Bowden (who is still unemployed after 90 D1 head coaching changes).
I don’t see Dabo landing a better job anywhere. And TDP has plenty of leverage over Dabo because if Dabo theatens to quit, TDP can say, “We’ll miss you but I feel confident in Chad’s ability to take over the head coaching position.” So TDP better not screw up like he did with Tommy Bowden and give Dabo a buyout.
Apparently...
Texas A&M has expressed interest in Dabo. Didn’t think another school would be interested in him quite so soon, but it shows that something good is going on in Clemson :)
Yeah... and if you trusted the rumors spread by our AD, Arkansas was supposedly going to steal Tommy Bowden away.
Except that it turned out that their board of trustees rejected Bowden (as was reported by ESPN and the local Arkansas newspapers) very early into the bluffing process. Yet TDP foolishly caved AFTER the press had already reported Bowden’s rejection.
Let me know when TxA&M actually interviews Dabo, or makes him a better offer. Then ask me about adding a buyout.
For the best results we've had in 20 years, I would expect a price increase
Still, this was just one season for Morris. What if the offense is not so great next year, and we are paying more than anyone in the nation for a mediocre offense? The natives will certainly be restless.
So, the bar has been raised. Good. That doesn’t mean win the ACC every year or get fired, but it means you can’t make that money and have a crappy offense. These guys did something good, are getting rewarded, and now they know they must not backslide next season.
Also beat the frickin chickens.
Supply and demand. With 7 OLs leaving, I don't expect Morris's offense to do well in 2012.
… Just like I didn’t expect Kevin Steele’s defense to do well this season with all of the personnel losses from 2010.
Dalton Freeman just filed his NFL paperwork, so we may lose him. Then of course we lose OL starters, Allen, Price, McClain, & Walker, and backups, Smith & Cloy. Brandon Thomas returns, but after that we’ll looking at a lot of really green guys starting.
Do we open with Auburn?
Losing McClain will be addition by subtraction, I dont think Freeman leaves,
Landon may be addition by subtraction as well. But losing Price and his attitude and toughness definitely sucks. None of the OL guys we’re losing were especially great to begin with. Maybe a chance for the young guys to come in and shine.
I’m more worried about losing the DL guys, Kourtnei, Brandon, Rennie, and Andre. OUCH!
Yea, everybody called this year a rebuilding year
I said at the beginning that this was the year that dabo had to make hay. Next year they’ll be worse.
I think we're ok on the D-Line
Crawford, Williams, and others have looked pretty good, and we have Watkins, Aiken, and hopefully Bullard coming in too.
I think it’s awesome that we’ll continue to have DE’s from Bamberg and DT’s from Daniel
by PenthouseTiger on Dec 7, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Happy to see the Admin commit to
Morris. Now, looking towards next year, with what could possibly more momentum than we have had in YEARS (OB victory, top ten ranking, another top 10 class, 2012 pre season top ten ranking), are we setting ourselves up for major disappointment in 2012? With the personnel losses on both lines, I have major concerns. Depth and experience are taking a big hit.
by Clemson04 on Dec 7, 2011 8:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Again I say
We could line up dead bodies on our O line and have them perform better than half of the offensive line. How bad could the freshmen be?
And the Dline w/o
Branch, Thompson and Moore? Our LB corps may be even further exposed next year without protection up front. Anthony should surely improve but Steward may not be able to contribute much until 2013.
by Clemson04 on Dec 7, 2011 9:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Think Clemson vs. Auburn in 2008 when we had fantastic skill players (Davis, Spiller, Ford, et al) but we were breaking in a new O-line (which learned to play decently by 2009).
Thunder & Lightning were held to 20 yards total. Clemson had zero yards rushing (including sacks). The O-line will almost certainly be worse next year.
Exactly the game/season that comes to mind.
Luckily, Auburn shouldn’t be anywhere near as good as Bama was that year. That was a very rude awakening to the 08 season in the GA Dome. Thankfully, Morris is slightly better than Spence.
by Clemson04 on Dec 7, 2011 1:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OLine may be worse
but I’m ready to see what Caldwell can do with some of his own guys combined with a new S&C coach. I think our OLine could surprise next year. McClain’s departure won’t be noticeable. We lost Price in the ACCCG against Va Tech and we looked fine. Now, this is all assuming that Freeman stays.
News on said new S&C coach?
Or just wishful thinking?
Huge fan of Morris, glad he is staying, could not work any trades for someone else.
But, that is a lot of money and he has been here for one season. I guess he was also successful at Tulsa, but again, a guy has two really good seasons and he is now one of the highest paid coordinators in the country? More power to him, and I hope he earns every penny.
I tend to agree with STS and think he is looking at 2013 as the year he will try to cash in and land a big head coaching gig. That should be one heck of a team.
"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony
by Tigerplowboy on Dec 7, 2011 5:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Willy
The Willy Korn article shines a light on a big problem at Clemson. I’m really glad the kid has been able to find some success on the football field. He’s lucky he can still lift his arm.
I’ve heard grumblings about several players injuries being mis-handled. KP, as mentioned above, Willy, D-MAC, & Bowers all seem to have suffered in some form from playing through injuries. Like the article said, if you ask any 20 year old who’s future is on the line, of course they’re going to tell you they can play.
Weis at Kansas
Where does that leave Malzahn?
I'm thinking Weis saw the writing on the wall
at Florida, and told Kansas he’d take way less money than Malzahn would. I’ll guarantee Gainesville is celebrating the fat man’s departure.
by PenthouseTiger on Dec 9, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
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