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Clemson Offensive Line Participation

We've discussed participation along the defensive line, now we need to look at who is playing on the offensive front. For this analysis, we look at offensive snaps taken (special teams snaps were not included) by non-tight end offensive linemen. All data were attained from the Clemson Athletics Website. The result was similar to those seen with the defensive linemen in that seniors and graduate students have taken the large majority of the snaps to this point.

Below you'll see the number of offensive snaps taken by each of Clemson's linemen. Notice that all players sans McClain have been redshirted. Also notice that seven (7) linemen have over 100 snaps. Out of those players, five (5) are seniors, one a junior, and one a sophomore. The freshmen (and Matt Sanders) looked to participate largely only when the game was out of hand.

Player

POS

Cl.

Total

Dalton Freeman

C

*Jr.

975

Landon Walker

OT

*Gr.

967

Antoine McClain

OG

Sr.

855

Phillip Price

OT

*Sr.

777

Brandon Thomas

OL

*So.

702

David Smith

OG

*Gr.

394

Mason Cloy

OL

*Gr.

174

Gifford Timothy

OT

*Fr.

36

Kalon Davis

OG

*Fr.

35

Reid Webster

OL

*Fr.

27

Matt Sanders

OL

*Jr.

25

David Beasley

OG

*Fr.

24

The class by class participation percentage breakdown shows just how dependent this team was on its senior class, which has played in over 63% of the offensive snaps. If you include the 1000 snaps between Freeman and Sanders, you'll note that the juniors and seniors have contributed 83.5% of Clemson's offensive line snaps on the year.

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Class

Snaps

% of Snaps

Fr.

122

2.44%

So.

702

14.07%

Jr.

1000

20.04%

Sr./Gr.

3167

63.45%

Total

4991

100.00%

With such a veteran offensive line, Clemson should have been a dominant group up front-flat out shredding it up. That is what veteran offensive lines do. Our Tigers, however, have endured the Brad Scott experiment which, combined with questionable S&C/practice philosophies, has produced a unit that The Chad has described as soft. I am looking for the S&C issue to be addressed this offseason.

All of these numbers show the importance of bowl practice and spring drills for the 2012 offensive line. We desperately need to fill a lot of spots with a lot of players who lack in-game experience. Fortunately, Clemson has a guy in place who is an excellent line coach. We also have an offensive coordinator who is sick and tired of a lot of things, particularly preparation of this group and the lack of a mean streak shown over the past 10 years or so. We are optimistic the combination of Caldwell and Morris can turn this group into a nasty, nasty line.

I am not overly optimistic, however, that they will be complete and ready in 2012. You'll notice that we have a lot of seniors and a lot of freshmen (with Brandon Thomas and Dalton Freeman being the lone sophomore and junior that played this season). This means that there, as you can clearly see above, will be a huge dropoff in game experience following the Orange Bowl. This is a problem that was caused by a poor recruiting strategy, leaving large gaps in experience every couple years. Clemson has to strategically come up with a better method to avoid these massive holes created by graduation.

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So, the big question is this...

Is the lack of participation from the younger guys due to a lack of physical readiness or talent? In other words, do they just need to get stronger and learn the plays or did we miss evaluate them?

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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 26, 2011 7:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'll give my opinion on lack of playing time and people can agree/disagree

Timothy – Not an OT, should be a guard
Webster – Not physically gifted
K. Davis – Lacks nastiness
D. Beasley – Has nastiness, needs to get his head in the playbook

That being said, I’ve heard really good reviews on Ryan Norton, who redshirted this year. He could play guard next year, but is ultimately the heir apparent to Freeman.

by ggggmen08 on Dec 26, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

a popular theory is that the staff may try to get Freeman reps at another OL

position and allow Norton to play next season. I am critical of this strategy, simply because you do not really want to move an established veteran around (outside of his strongest position) to account for youth/depth issues.

This spring and camp will be interesting as the staff tries to figure out what to do up front.

by FIGUREFOUR on Dec 26, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

didn't freeman

play guard as a freshman?
I may be completely wrong about this.

Also has Region managed to lose any weight? I hear he’s got the nasty streak we desperately need.

by PenthouseTiger on Dec 26, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Both

Our philosophy of playing starters all game doesnt help it though

by DrB on Dec 26, 2011 10:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why play your same OL for 80 snaps every game?

I am not an expert, but it seems reasonable to assume the guys up front take the biggest pounding of anyone on the offense, with the exception of maybe the running back. Just seems that they would need to get a break as much as anyone.

I had an interesting conversation with a guy who played D1 football recently at an SEC school, and he indicated that those guys are taking some major pain medicine to keep them going during the season. He actually played tight end and said his body felt like jello by the end of the season because all of the stuff he took (that was freely given to him and everyone else by the coaches/S and C staff) just made his body feel numb. To me, it seems this has to affect performance, in which case it seems we would do all we could to develop depth on the line. This obviously did not happen this year, and I believe it caught up with us at the end of the season, and we will pay an even steeper price next year.

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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 26, 2011 12:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We don't rotate up front because Clemson lacked quality depth behind the starters

and immediate backups (i.e. the seven players who had significant playing time as indicated above).

Painkillers and associated treatments, unfortunately, are pretty much part of the game. These guys go out and pretty much beat the hell out of each other week in and week out and are going to get dinged and bruised up. Football players are constantly playing hurt, there is no way around it. Coaches will quickly point out that there is a big difference between being injured and hurt. Coaches and doctors these days don’t typically jeopardize a player’s health but they do expect players to play through some discomfort at times.

Typically these items are relatively minor in the overall scheme of things but add up over the course of a season. The discomfort can negatively effect a player so they can receive, as the guys said about Ben Roethlisberger a couple weeks ago in San Fran, “medicine” to allow the player to play through pain.

by FIGUREFOUR on Dec 26, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for the explanation.

I hope we will have some depth up front next season.

"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony

by Tigerplowboy on Dec 26, 2011 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A few questions

If Norton is Freeman’s heir apparent, will Guillermo likely move to guard? Also, how did Matt Sanders get a scholarship? He seems to be a complete whiff in recruiting. Lastly, are there indications that there will be changes in S&C or are those hopes from the fan base? I would hope there is legitimate concern within the program regarding S&C player development.

by judge jeff davis on Dec 26, 2011 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

What's the opinion on Spencer Region?

Do you guys think he can play next year enough to help? What have you heard about him as far as how the coaches view him, staff opinion, etc.?

Also, and I’m just being creative here, I have ABSOLUTELY NO reason to think this could happen or it should happen, etc., but is there any chance Eric McClain might find himself as a LT eventually, or that Region might wind up as a NT in a 3-man front? He’s got Mt. Cody size and (cough) body type….again, I’m just throwing that out for a discussion starter.

by judge jeff davis on Dec 26, 2011 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Region is a big nasty

he plays hard and he plays mean. But he is way too far out of the shape to get reps in a hurry up no huddle offense. If he can transform his body this offseason, I’d love to see him on the field.

A lot of people think McClain would be a great LT, but he really wants to play TE. He was also one of top TE recruits in the country and switching over to LT would make him a bit of an unknown and would require a lot of weight gain.

by ggggmen08 on Dec 26, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Thomas was going to move to LT

and have a RS freshman take over at guard. Has that changed? Is Thomas a better LG than LT?

by D'Arve21 on Dec 26, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah he wont play NT

Just needs to cut weight. Caldwell loves his mean streak.

MacLains foot speed concerned me at TE. I think he gets a shot there but may be a good OT too.

by DrB on Dec 26, 2011 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You mentioned Clemson needing a better method to avoid what is to come in 2012

what is the right way to recruit and bring in O-line man or D-line men for that matter? We’re taking about 4-5 from what I understand in terms of the O-line this year. Are these the numbers that we need to take every year? Or should we focus on having at least 2 for the next few years as after next year we won’t have as big a need?

by D'Arve21 on Dec 26, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

At OL in particular you have to project 2 yrs

Ahead of when you may need them, adding in the higher attrition and it becomes a big problem

We think you need to take 3 every year, maybe 2-3 DL as well.

by DrB on Dec 26, 2011 8:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think what we need more than anything is to recruit OL that pan out.

Think about it…if Kenneth Page and Sanders pan out, then we are not really in trouble next season. If JK Jay had not been hurt, then we would have some drop off, but it would not be that bad. And, if the guys who came in in the 2010 class are good, then they could presumably come in and be productive as RS sophomores. I believe I read that Caldwell was a good evaluator and I think we need that more than anything.

"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony

by Tigerplowboy on Dec 26, 2011 8:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think what we need more than anything is to recruit OL that pan out.

Think about it…if Kenneth Page and Sanders pan out, then we are not really in trouble next season. If JK Jay had not been hurt, then we would have some drop off, but it would not be that bad. And, if the guys who came in in the 2010 class are good, then they could presumably come in and be productive as RS sophomores. I believe I read that Caldwell was a good evaluator and I think we need that more than anything.

"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony

by Tigerplowboy on Dec 26, 2011 8:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Somewhat off topic, but do yall think Price would have contributed earlier had Caldwell been in place a year or two earlier?

He basically went from where some of our backups are to all ACC in a year.

"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony

by Tigerplowboy on Dec 27, 2011 1:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I don't know that he would've gotten the opportunity

you may have seen guys recruited to play the position be developed better and beat him out.

by PenthouseTiger on Dec 27, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

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