Who's Playing: True Freshmen
There are always questions regarding a whether a player should be redshirted or should come in and immediately play for Clemson's football team. We want to look at participation numbers to try and determine which playing decisions for the young team members was appropriate and which players should have been subjected to a full redshirt season.
It is our opinion that to make a guy's freshman season worthwhile, and not hamper him later, that he should get a certain number of snaps over the season. If he doesn't, then he should've been redshirted. The year of development and adjustment to living in college is a good thing for freshmen. They can get their academic situation worked out and learn to manage their time between practice and workouts and class. Many need the year of physical development in a real S&C program, either to gain or lose weight. Generally if a player's snap count isn't over 200 over a season, we don't feel that its worthwhile to play him. For reference, starters generally push for 550-700 snaps.
All statistics presented below were obtained from the official Clemson University Athletic Website. We only included non-special steam snaps taken in this analysis, so these players could have attained experience as members of special teams units over the course of the football season. As a recap, below are the players who signed with Clemson last February.
| Player | Scout | Rivals | High School | Hometown | HT/WT/40 | College | Position |
| Shaq Anthony | 3 | 3 | Wren HS | Piedmont, SC | 6-4/260 | Clemson | OT |
| Stephone Anthony | 5 | 5 | Anson HS | Wadesboro, NC | 6-3/220/4.71 | Clemson | OLB |
| Isaiah Battle | 3 | 3 | Blue Ridge School | Dyke, VA | 6-7/260 | Clemson | OT |
| Mike Bellamy | 4 | 5 | Charlotte HS | Punta Gorda, FL | 5-10/190/4.31 | Clemson | RB |
| Martavis Bryant | 4 | 4 | T L Hanna HS | Anderson, SC | 6-4/184/4.41 | Clemson | WR |
| Roderick Byers | 3 | 3 | Northwestern HS | Rock Hill, SC | 6-3/262/4.80 | Clemson | DT |
| Corey Crawford | 4 | 4 | Carver HS | Columbus, GA | 6-6/250/4.75 | Clemson | DE |
| Cortez Davis | 3 | 4 | Mainland HS | Daytona Beach, FL | 6-5/180 | Clemson | S |
| Kevin Dodd | 3 | 3 | Riverside HS | Greer, SC | 6-5/270 | Clemson | DE |
| B.J. Goodson | 2 | 3 | Lamar HS | Lamar, SC | 6-1/215 | Clemson | MLB |
| Joe Gore | 3 | 3 | East Columbus HS | Lake Waccamaw, NC | 6-6/250 | Clemson | OT |
| Adam Humphries | 3 | 2 | Dorman HS | Spartanburg, SC | 5-11/175/4.56 | Clemson | CB |
| Grady Jarrett | 3 | 3 | Rockdale County HS | Conyers, GA | 6-1/273/5.24 | Clemson | DT |
| Ammon Lakip | 3 | 2 | Chattahoochee HS | Alpharetta, GA | 5-11/175 | Clemson | K |
| Eric MacLain | 4 | 4 | Jack Britt | Fayetteville, NC | 6-5/246/5.20 | Clemson | TE |
| Jerome Maybank | 3 | 2 | Waccamaw HS | Pawleys Island, SC | 6-4/320 | Clemson | OT |
| Tony McNeal | 3 | 3 | Chester Senior HS | Chester, SC | 6-1/170 | Clemson | QB |
| Ryan Norton | 3 | 3 | Mauldin HS | Mauldin, SC | 6-4/274 | Clemson | C |
| Charone Peake | 4 | 4 | Dorman HS | Spartanburg, SC | 6-3/175/4.45 | Clemson | WR |
| Spencer Region | 3 | 3 | Cullman Senior HS | Cullman, AL | 6-6/345/5.40 | Clemson | OG |
| Morgan Roberts | 2 | 3 | Charlotte Country Day School | Charlotte, NC | 6-2.5/201 | Clemson | QB |
| Stanton Seckinger | 2 | 3 | Porter-Gaud School | Charleston, SC | 6-5/195 | Clemson | WR |
| Robert Smith | 3 | 3 | Woodland HS | Dorchester, SC | 6-0/194/4.90 | Clemson | S |
| Tony Steward | 4 | 5 | Pedro Menendez HS | Saint Augustine, FL | 6-1/215/4.50 | Clemson | MLB |
| Cole Stoudt | 3 | 3 | Dublin Coffman HS | Dublin, OH | 6-4/190 | Clemson | QB |
| Lateek Townsend | 4 | 4 | Marlboro County HS | Bennettsville, SC | 6-2/207/4.60 | Clemson | OLB |
| Colton Walls | 2 | 2 | Charlotte Latin School | Charlotte, NC | 6-2.5/230 | Clemson | MLB |
| Sammy Watkins | 5 | 5 | South Fort Myers HS | Fort Myers, FL | 6-1/180/4.40 | Clemson | WR |
| DeShawn Williams | 3 | 3 | D W Daniel HS | Central, SC | 6-0/290 | Clemson | DT |
Obviously, not all of these players are currently on the Clemson roster. Dodd and Battle spent this past season at Fork Union, so they could not play this season for the Tigers and, thus, will not be mentioned further. They both plan to enroll in January.
Below are the true freshman participation numbers for the 2011 season. This table shows the cumulative number of plays each player participated in over the course of the 2011 season. Again, these do not include special teams snaps so keep that in mind as we move through this analysis.
| # | Player | Pos. | Cl. | Total Plays |
| 2 | Sammy Watkins | WR | Fr. | 606 |
| 12 | Stephone Anthony | LB | Fr. | 247 |
| 16 | Adam Humphries | WR | Fr. | 244 |
| 93 | Corey Crawford | DE | Fr. | 220 |
| 19 | Charone Peake | WR | Fr. | 213 |
| 1 | Martavis Bryant | WR | Fr. | 183 |
| 5 | Mike Bellamy | RB | Fr. | 145 |
| 99 | DeShawn Williams | DT | Fr. | 114 |
| 8 | Cole Stoudt | QB | Fr. | 65 |
| 27 | Robert Smith | S | Fr. | 53 |
| 50 | Grady Jarrett | DT | Fr. | 52 |
| 7 | Tony Steward | LB | Fr. | 36 |
| 20 | Lateek Townsend | LB | Fr. | 3 |
We all are fully aware of Sammy Watkins' contributions this season and no one will argue that he was clearly ready to play the second he set foot on campus. He backs this up with a true freshman leading 606 regular snaps on the year. This number is almost 460 more than the next closest true freshman, so we do not see the need to discuss Watkins' participation in such depth over the balance of this article.
As shown through the table above and figure below, four true freshmen in addition to Sammy had over 200 snaps on the season. These players were Anthony, Humphries, Peake, and Crawford. Each contributed on the season. Humphries and Peake gave the receiving corps added depth. Both contributed and one could argue that Humphries gave the Tigers the spark needed to overcome a late deficit at home against Wake. Anthony at times showed why he was a very highly ranked linebacker coming out of high school and Crawford provided quality depth for a defensive line that needed it. Clearly all of the players with over 200 snaps contributed significantly so their freshman campaign was justified through participation numbers.
The players in the 100-200 snap range were Martavis Bryant, DeShawn Williams, and Mike Bellamy. Bryant was definitely a contributor this season. He was used early to stretch the field against the likes of FSU and Auburn. Bryant also has over 200 yards receiving on the year, including a pair of 54 yard grabs on the year. He does need the development however. Bellamy physically looked ready to play (i.e., his speed) and simply had too much talent to sit. Bellamy had nearly 350 yards on the season. Bellamy clearly needs the mental development, and if he had any, he would've gotten close to another 100 snaps at least. If he had more size, probably more than that.
Williams recorded 20 tackles through the ACCCG and played over 10 defensive snaps in five games--again justifiable in avoiding a redshirt because we simply had to have another DT. We pressed for them to play him more and he did so. However, he probably should've taken the RS.
Cole Stoudt was forced into duty. Getting a backup QB over 200 snaps is not a feasible expectation. You could argue he should have redshirted under normal depth conditions, but Clemson's lack of depth at the QB position forced him into action as the backup where he did play well relieving Boyd in the BC game. A freshman QB had to avoid a redshirt this season and Stoudt was simply further along than McNeal. Why we took Roberts is still confusing. We speculate that one of these QBs will leave Clemson, perhaps not this year but the followiing.
Now we get to the players who had less than 55 "regular" snaps on the season: Robert Smith, Grady Jarrett, Tony Steward, and Lateek Townsend. While Townsend did have 16 tackles on the season, all were on special teams. In that sense, he definitely contributed this season. However, we recruited him to be a stud linebacker, so I have a tough time legitimizing the special teams play to an extent. Only three of his snaps on the season were defensive snaps. We said that he was not ready yet and, according to the statistics, he wasn't. Most think that Townsend was played just to keep him from creating a distraction and apparently it worked. You could argue either way given the personality of the player and special teams contributions, but I definitely would have redshirted him.
We fully expected Robert Smith to see more action at the SS position, rotating in to spell Meeks. All indications following fall camp indicated that Smith would receive a significant amount of playing time and did in the Wofford game. He struggled in those 31 snaps and saw little playing time the balance of the regular season on defense. Harbison appeared to believe he was further along than he really was. Harbison appeared to have full intentions of granting Smith significant playing time but it just didn't work out. In retrospect, its clear he should've taken a RS.
Grady Jarrett was a player who we said was underrated coming out of high school. Jarrett definitely impressed the coaches during camp and was expected to contribute to a defensive line that lacked quality depth. Jarrett saw significant snaps early against Troy, again vs. UNC, then 12 snaps in the ACC Championship Game. Otherwise his time on the field was limited. Like Smith, the coaches probably expected Jarrett to see the field more--especially when you consider the depth issue Clemson had with the interior defensive line. The staff also likely wanted to give a young buck some experience for next season as both Rennie Moore and Brandon Thompson will be gone. Jarrett was pushing the two-deep back in august, so you would think that the staff was almost forced to burn his redshirt due to depth issues. Given the number of snaps, I would have liked to see him redshirt. Given the depth situation and the early decision to avoid sitting Jarrett, the coaches should have placed more emphasis on getting him snaps, especially in more of the games that did not go down the wire.
Tony Steward is a very unique case. It was obvious that the coaches were eager to get him on the field as quickly as possible simply because of his ridiculous talent level. Steward did have some issues with scheme but the big factor weighing on his redshirt decision had to be the the health of his knee. In reality, an injury to his other knee ended his season in October. A combination of injury and adjustment kept Steward off the field. The staff was clearly hoping to get him more involved early (25 total snaps in the first two games) but just couldn't rotate him in for significant snaps during the next four games (11 snaps for the balance of his year). Hindsight says he should have been redshirted but the defensive staff had grand thoughts of utilizing his talent immediately and injury ultimately killed this season.
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Heard on the radio yesterday Bullard is a lock for Clemson
Wes Mitchell who runs Gamecockanthem.com, is a recruiting guru and a regular host on the ESPN/ Clemson Sports radio station in Columbia (93.1 FM) was reporting from the Shrine Bowl yesterday. He said the word from all the coaches and people there was that Bullard is Clemson lock. He’s usually on the money with stuff like that even though his focus is U. of South Carolina.
Well, if he goes to the Gators at least he won't be a dirty Cock
but DAMN I want us to land this guy.
by judge jeff davis on Dec 13, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Surprised Peake had more snaps than Bryant
I definitely noticed Bryant on the field more. I think one of Peake, Humphries, and Bryant should have redshirted. We did not need all three.
Bellamy should have been redshirted, and if he stays on the team at all, might ought to be redshirted next year, unless Ellington leaves and we then have few RBs. This kid is nowhere near ready to be on the field even though he has great physical ability.
At RB you need to know where to line up, and how to hold a football, and he clearly did not know either one or learn over the course of an entire season. He fumbled A LOT, and seemed to know maybe one or two plays correctly? This is in addition to a bunch of other attitude problems. Maybe they would not have signed him if he was going to redshirt this season, but he really needed a year to grow up.
Townsend, 3 snaps? Really? Wow. Hardly seems worth it.
There are several guys where it basically seem like it was a wasted year. I guess on the flipside, if you RS a guy and he is disgruntled and either does not develop or quits, then you have not gained anything, and might as well play him. Better to get 2-3 good seasons maybe later than waste 1-2 years and have a guy quit.
I think Bryant had more quality snaps than Peake
but I wouldn’t have red shirted any of them considering how weak and thin our WR were coming into this season. We knew thta Nuk would play well but other than him who did we have? Brown stepped it up in a HUGE way from where he was and that’s the real reason I think that Peake really hasn’t had the ball thrown to him a lot. He was on the field normally with Watkins, Nuk and D. Allen. With that many play makers in front of you, it’s hard to see him getting the ball thrown to him. Don’t forget that he dropped a sure TD pass against BC. HE’s had opportunities and has made some key catches. He’ll be great soon enough. I actually think he’s more versitale than Bryant. Bryant seems to only really come on the field for go routes.
I wish Bryant had seen more action the second half of the year.
It seems he had a great impact in the first 5-6 games then never hardly got used again. I dont know if it was self-scouting and we noticed we only ran him deep or what. But that’s what he’s good at, he’s the fastest guy on the team top speed, he should have been out there running deep when the offense was struggling, trying to create a spark.
Bryant was a factor until after GT IMO
he had that long TD catch against UNC, and dropped one, looked like he lost it in the lights, against GT. I’m suprised we didn’t go back to it seeing as how he had the man beat, just lost the ball. Didn’t seem that involved in Wake and was injured at that time, which probably is why we really didn’t try to strecth the field. Also another thing to remember is that at that point, our O-line forgot how to block so Tajh had no time to throw it long even if such a call was made.
I think Peake and Bryant suffered from the fact that even Morris can't run enough plays to really utilize all of our talent.
Sammy, Andre, Nuk, Allen, Jaron….just a lot of mouths to feed.
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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 13, 2011 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this is another reminder of how talented and young this team is
and there is more to come in Feb.
If BJ Goodson, Lateek, and Tony Ste. get a firm grasp of the defense, we are in for a real treat.
I would imagine they promised lateek and steward that they could play if they signed.
If the choice is wasting a year or having them go elsewhere then we made the right call. Also, if my job as a coach is on the line, then I play everyone I think can help me win. Basically, I do not think the decision on whether someone should or shoulnt have redshirted is as black and white as whether they played X number of snaps or not. Still, yall make some good points, and I am sure the coaches tried to convey all of this to the guys who really should have redshirted.
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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 13, 2011 9:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He was?
I thought we promised that he wouldn’t to get him here. If he hadn’t injured himself do you think he would have seen more of the field as the year went along, kind of like Anthony?
He shoulda been redshirted then, along with Lateek. I dont understand that
apparently all of lateek’s whining got his redshirt burned, for some special teams tackles and 3 whole plays. What a waste of a year for him.
I’d bet that by the end of their careers at clemson, they’ll be wishing they had redshirted to get that one more good year of playing time, rather than a few snaps here and there as a freshman.
It sounds like while he was open to it
the coaches wanted to play him becuase they felt his knee, and more importantly his confidence in his knee, would improve as the year went on. Just my opinon on it. I felt from the interviews with him that he did need to RS and probably should have but that is up to the coaches.
If Steward makes a full recovery and picks up the defense then whether or not he redshirted will be irrelevant because he will be in the NFL.
I hope it happens because he seems like a great kid. Really want to see a full speed Steward out there with Stephon Anthony and Lateek.
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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 13, 2011 8:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jarrett and R. Smith
are the two who I think shoudl’ve rs’d. Apparently Jarrett jumped ahead of Barnes, T. Thomas and Watson, but still think they should have held him. Makes me wonder about the ones he jumped.
In hindsite you are right.
But Robert Smith actually started a game, so they must have thought he was going to contribute. Also, if Thompson or Moore had gone down then Jarrett would have been forced to see more of the field.
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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 13, 2011 8:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My thoughts too
I thought I heard somewhere that Watson was going to be a good one, guess not. In Stewards case I truly believe he would have worked into a significant role in the rotation if he stayed healthy. Guy has tremendous athleticism, just hoping he comes back ready to go and spent time this year trying to soak up knowledge from the sidelines. You never know how a guy will respond to two knee injuries like this mentally, and with our doctors physically as well.
Watson
Sometimes players only have significant roles as juniors and seniors especially linemen, Rennie Moore and Kourtney Brown are good examples.
I'd be surprised if Watson fits that case
it’s widely reported that the staff thinks he was a miss in evaluation.
Seems that way for all except Townsend
only 3 snaps on the D? Waste of a RS I think.
Red-shirt was removed from Lateek specifically for Special Teams
You’re looking at the wrong stat if you’re only focusing on defensive snaps. Dabo said specifically that his value would be in helping the special teams. He really felt that Lateek could help sure up that unit.
maybe so
It may be incorrect but Dabo did say that Lateek would not reshirt because they needed him on special teams, Lateek had 16 tackles so he did his job well, a tackle in special teams might be the difference in a long field and a TD!
He said this after the fact, not before. Merely alluded to it in August.
He was not allowed to play him in the first 4.
Watching the replay against UNC
It looked like he jumped out of his lane while the UNC returner went inside and went for a TD. Not saying that whole thing was on him but it was just somethign I noticed.
steward
any idea if he got a competant doc to do his surgery or will he end up gimpy the rest of his career?
by lowcountrytiger on Dec 13, 2011 1:36 PM EST reply actions
Hos does it work with us?
It used to be the most teams were split into two groups: travel squad and scout team.
If you were redshirted, you were on scout team while on the guys in the two/three deep got reps. Is that still the case?
The reason I ask is because if a guy like Townsend is getting reps in practice at LB and in the film room, that has to count for something from a “learning the scheme” standpoint. If he’s on scout team, he’s basically practicing the opponents defense, working with Batson, and waiting on the spring. Is that correct?
Isaiah Battle upgraded?
Saw on Rivals that Battle is a 4-star OT now…anything to be read into this? How soon do you see him being able to contribute? Will he even be here in the spring and/or fall?
by judge jeff davis on Dec 13, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions
No, I dont read anything into it.
Very common for prep guys to get that 4th star when they went in as a 2 or 3. Remember Watson got a 4th and cant crack our 3 deep.
I don’t expect many freshmen to ever contribute on OL, but ours is so pitiful he might have to.
Question.
I believe it has been said on here and other places that true frehman OL typically do not play because they need to get stronger and change their body composition in order to compete at the D1 level. Now, technically Battle will be a true freshman, but in reality he is a year older and has played an extra year at prep school. Does that put him at the same level as one of our RS freshman OL, or does he not get the same conditioning and strength training at prep school as he would at Clemson (considering our S and C program sucks).
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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 13, 2011 8:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Battle was already quite raw, needed the extra coaching
Fork Union would train better than most HSs but not like a real Div 1 program would. He still has a way to go.
Remember Bryant had a year, as did Meeks, and it didnt put them ahead of the curve
by DrB on Dec 13, 2011 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Then ofcourse there was Lambert who went to prep school, redshirted, and exhausted his eligibility without ever making an impact.
Seems technique is easier to coach than attitude.
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by Tigerplowboy on Dec 14, 2011 6:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

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