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I wish Clemson had 4 more Phillip Prices.

6 months ago 350px-clemson_tiny AugustaTigerFan 12 comments 1 recs  | 

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Thought I posted as a video. Thanks AParker.

by AugustaTigerFan on Dec 1, 2011 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

Living in Texas

People think Olinemen grow on trees. I used to tell my friend we had all the skill in the world but sub-par linemen. This used to be my explanation- "We go out and recruit guys with all the right size measurements, but they are usually not big talents or have a few flaws’

But when I look across our starting line now, EVERYONE is a 4-star, besides Price. We’ve belabored the issues with Scott and Batson with the upperclassmen, but that just disgusts me in general to have a line full of quality recruits all in their 3rd or 4th year that cannot block! JUST GET IT DONE.

Hopefully Price is back close to 100%, we need to win this one. Bad.

"Just because you've had 2 or 3 good games doesn't mean anything right now. It's not the first 3 games you're going to be remembered by." - The Chad

by scgreatest803 on Dec 1, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Attitude + Accountability

If you look around at the offensive linemen who will likely end up in the NFL next year, most of them were 3-star recruits (or lower). Here’s a smattering I grabbed from Rivals:

Riley Reiff | 3-star (Iowa)
David DeCastro | 3-star (Stanford)
Jonathan Martin | 3-star (Stanford)
Kelechi Osemele | 3-star (Iowa St)
Levy Adcock | NR (Oklahoma St)
Ben Jones | 3-star (UGA)
Andrew Datko | 3-star (FSU)
Kevin Zeitler | 3-star (Wisconsin)
Nate Potter | 2-star (Boise)
Senio Kelemete | 3-star (Washington)

  • Couldn’t locate any info on Mike Adams of Ohio St.

This is from a list of about ~15 linemen (not counting TE’s) that project well in the 2012 draft.

You could extrapolate that about 2/3 of elite offensive linemen are not blue chip HS recruits. You might also note that there’s probably a bias on the part of the recruiting analysts to give high school linemen from the Southeast a higher grade than lineman from west of the Mississipp’. Or maybe the currency of linemen is inflated in the midwest because there are so many? Or, most likely, it’s hard to gauge if a 6’6" manchild has the intangible requirements to mature into a good linemen, so it becomes a talent evaluation issue or a numbers game.

If Clemson’s track record is any indication, it seems we often do better with the kids who fly in under the radar, underestimated, and with a chip on their shoulder than we do with the 4 and 5-star darlings. Contrast people like Price, Pilgrim, Tommy Sharpe (maybe Dave Smith, and the Frys too) with some of the notable busts. In general, the self-motivated people become the heroes and often outperform their bigger and “more talented” teammates. How do we find more people like that? How do we make the most out of the big guys who are just good enough?Coaching. When our coaches recruit a guy who comes in as a wad of cookie, after a few years he should be carved out of wood (or sitting on it).

by EvanT on Dec 1, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

ninja edit
  • “wad of cookie DOUGH”

doh.

by EvanT on Dec 1, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember in the spring when...

all the “experts” said Thomas would take the starting job from Price by fall practice?

by greenvandal on Dec 1, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

No Film Review, Dr. B?

I was looking forward to your description of the play where Kourtnei Brown stunts and runs to within 6 inches of Connor Shaw and then just stops cold while Shaw runs by him for the TD.

If you could answer some spot questions, I’d appreciate it.
The coverage on the Ellington TD?
Were we not in fact running a 3-3-5 nickel for the first time this year on Saturday?
And the TB counter play we kept running…is it diagrammed anywhere?

by TheKraken on Dec 1, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Interview

What you guys think about the Dabo interview?

by Boilingspringstiger on Dec 1, 2011 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

Yep, you get your 365 days

However, I still like that Dabo said it from a recruiting standpoint. Kids dig that kind of talk and it’s also a reminds them of the truth of the two universities historically. He’s also right about being fired for 35 wins. He’s on pace for 40 wins and a lot of people want him gone right now. I think that would be true if we played in the SEC.

by TheKraken on Dec 2, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

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