Who is Playing? Linebacker
In this article we'll look at the Linebacker participation charts. While Clemson plays a 4-3 base, we're almost never in a 4-3 set. We occasionally show the 3-4 as a changeup, but its usually in the single digits in terms of snaps played. Kevin Steele prefers the matchup of a Nickel corner anytime the opponent runs a 3 or 4 WR set out there, so it is often the SAM LB that comes off the field. In the Nickel, we use 2 LBs (Mac and Money), and there is no requirement that the Money be a true LB (Gilchrist often played the Money). Occasionally, against a strong passing squad, you'll see the FS or SS used there.
Our defense has played 9 games with an average snap count of 67 per = 605 defensive snaps total. Starters should rack up about ~650 snaps a year, and it looks like a couple of our guys are going to push close to 700 snaps. Linebackers don't get quite as gassed as DL, but they do need to be spelled. Also, if a guy isn't getting 100-150 snaps minimum over the entire season, he should be redshirting or somewhere else.
| Player | Snaps | Tackles | TFL | Sacks |
| Jonathan Willard -WLB | 419 | 58 | 1.5 | 0 |
| Corico Hawkins -MLB | 481 | 49 | 1.5 | 0 |
| Quandon Christian - SLB | 291 | 30 | 1.5 | 0 |
| Stephone Anthony -MLB | 131 | 22 | 4 | 1 |
| Tony Steward - WLB | 36 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Daniel Andrews - SLB | 17 | 3* | 0 | 0 |
| Spencer Shuey -MLB | 34 | 21* | 0 | 0 |
| Justin Parker - SLB | 23 | 9 | 0 | 0 |
| Lateek Townsend -SLB | 0 | 11* | 0 | 0 |
* - Special teams makes up a large majority of these tackles.
I think its obvious who produces the most for his amount of PT. In fairness to Steele, you wouldn't want Anthony thrown to the wolves of Auburn and FSU (8 snaps total), or the misdirection that Wofford will use (9 snaps), and he was held out with injury against BC, but he needs to start right now. His amount of snaps has caught up with Hawkins (both had 27 snaps vs UNC) vs regular offense opponents, and he needs to get the nod now. You cannot have a MLB in this scheme that does not produce. I think Steele is somewhat concerned that Rico will not try as hard once he's demoted, but this defense needs a good MLB that can evade a block, not one that stands there waiting to be blocked. Hawkins had 14 tackles against GT, thanks to them running about 30 dive plays, but he was not present on the pitch and does not make plays. Anthony should get the majority of snaps the rest of the way. We need that speed on blitzes because this defense does not register enough sacks. I don't see Shuey getting on the field more often than goal line sets.
Tig Willard finally started playing like I hoped he would this year, and he's staying in his gaps and doing fairly well against the pass. He lost most of his usefulness early last year because of a bad arm injury, but he's producing now to the point that he's staying on the field as the Money in Nickel sets.
Christian was a guy I thought would produce bigtime this year. He hasn't, and was taken off his spot in the nickel sets as a result of poor pass coverage. A SAM LB in the Under front should be better at setting an edge and getting into the backfield, and I don't know what the problem is with reading keys, but it rests on Steele and Christian.
Even though we thought Justin Parker's "light had come on" this Spring, he isn't getting onto the field either. He shouldve been RS'd last season, and won't get 100 snaps this year. He may actually get less snaps than in 2010. If Christian doesn't want to get it done, then Parker should play more.
Tony Steward, fresh off a knee surgery, wasn't redshirted and backed up Willard. However, with Tig having a good year and Steward clearly a step slow, he wasn't getting on the field. Now we've lost him to another knee injury and will have to petition for a medical redshirt because he's played too many games. Steward was held out of both Auburn and FSU understandably, but did not play enough snaps against Troy, Wofford, VT or BC to justify him not being on a redshirt. I doubt he'd have broken the 100 snap mark even if he'd made it through the year.
The staff did not plan or want to RS Lateek Townsend, and made it to the field after 4 games this year to play Special Teams. I think Townsend should've redshirted because he's a reckless player and needs to learn discipline to play OLB in our scheme. Its clear he won't get enough snaps on defense to justify not taking the RS, even though he's behind Christian, who isn't on every down either.
The overall performance of this defense this year rests on this group of players. Our pass defense has not been as bad as I expected it to be, but this group in the front 7 has played horribly this year, and Steele is in charge of the linebackers specifically. If the young guys aren't producing because the system is too complex, it is time to simplify it. If they aren't producing because of coaching, then its on Steele. Three years into this scheme we should have much better LB play.
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Never more disgusted with our starters than against GT
Christian, an upperclassman, couldn’t seem to PLAY HIS ROLE and allowed the QB to take a 40+ yard run. Hawkins simply satyed where he was and allowed a huge lineman to repeatedly cut his legs. The only LB I have liked all year has been Williard and so far I believe he’s the only one that deserves to be starting against Wake. Parker and Anthony can’t be any worse and Anthony’s aggresiveness and sheer talent has been seen, especially duing the VT game, he was all over the place! I hope Steward comes back healthy, in body and mind, and Townsend tones down his recklessness a bit, though he’s a monster on ST.
What is a reasonable lineup to expect for next year with Goodson coming off a red shirt, Steward, hopefully, ocming back fully healthy and a year of experience under Anthony and Townsend? So far as I know none of our starters are SR so is it fair to say that Christain and Hawkins will be losiong their starting spot to Anthony and Parker/Townsend?
I just don't think these LBs are that talented
I don’t see a Leroy Hill or Ed McDaniel out there (or even a Nick Watkins or Kavell Connor). The athletic ability, mean streak, and natural instincts aren’t on a high level.
However, we just brought in the top rated LB corps in the nation in recruiting. I’m going to reserve judgement until next year. If those guys can’t perform at a higher level than what’s happening right now, Steele is the problem. But, as Dr. B pointed out, Anthony is already producing at a higher level.
Also, everybody felt like the staff hit on Stanley Hunter, who was clearly more talented than what we had and would most certainly be starting somewhere as a senor right now. We’ve had some freaky things happen to LBs: S.Cooper, Nicolopolus, Steward injuries and Maye bailing. But, by next year, the staff will have had ample time and enough raw talent on the roster to put a productive LB corps out there.
I don’t have a problem with the complexity of the scheme because I want the DC to do his best to create a schematic advantage for every different style of offense we play and be able to make adjustments. However, when you have an entire position group not producing and young bucks waiting in the wings, something’s got to give. I agree with Dr. B, Anthony should start.
I agree here on talent
And truly not too surprised.. Tig has been solid, but looking back over recruiting tapes these guys coming out of HS they don’t exactly seem like monsters.
Quandon- RB/LB coming out of HS I believe..Pretty athletic guy, but may never weigh over 220, and not a fearless hitter. I was a big fan coming off of a solid RS-Fr season last year, and have expected much more this year.
Corico- I believe it was his freshman year in the bowl game when he came in and was knocking heads a little bit and flying around.. If you are his size you have to be aggressive and reckless. I was hoping for a Buster Davis (FSU) type guy here.. just hasn’t materialized.
Parker- When we signed this guy I thought we had the first real linebacker talent on the roster. Measurables and athelticism. What has happened here remains a mystery. Maybe the light will come on this offseason. Again.
"Just because you've had 2 or 3 good games doesn't mean anything right now. It's not the first 3 games you're going to be remembered by." - The Chad
by scgreatest803 on Nov 6, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
If the scheme is too complex you get paralysis by analysis. Players lose their
aggressiveness when they’re having to think about so much. I think that’s exactly what we’re seeing on the field. By the time the guys determine what their responsibility is, its too late and they’re out of position. If it’s too complex it MUST be simplified. We need our LB’s to be aggressive and play going forward, not flat-footed and standing still.
Goodson
Is it possible that Goodson is better/has more potenetial than Townsend and they didn’t want to waste 5 years of scholarship on Lateek?
I can't imagine it ever working like that
Why travel him as a freshman then? They have to see something in him. Those special teams spots are coveted by young guys and it usually means he’s in the 3 deep taking Goodson’s reps. Goddson, on the other hand, is probably on scout team.
With regards to the extra year on scholarship…A non-playing 5th year Senior that has graduated usually quits football or transfers to somewhere they can play with a graduate program in their field.
..and yet it’s still possible that Goodson ends up being better.
Playing Freshmen
One of my closest friends is a huge Vols fan. When we signed Steward Anthony and Townsend, they also signed two big name recruits in AJ Johnson and Curt Maggitt. Those two have been starting since week 1. Granted the UT roster is shot due to the Kiffin attrition, but they have both been starters and have played fairly well.
Steele mentioned “Reckless abandon” when describing how Breeland plays and tackles. Johnson and Maggitt often play in this same manner. What is it that Steele is doing to these LB’s that is making them so passive and timid??? Those TFL numbers are just SAD. I enjoy our offense and high flying passing game, but just can’t believe we don’t have any real hitters on defense. Turn em loose coach!!
"Just because you've had 2 or 3 good games doesn't mean anything right now. It's not the first 3 games you're going to be remembered by." - The Chad
I agree .
So far , I feel like Steeles defense is way too complicated for our LB’s . Not that he is a bad coach , but when your players have to think too much – they don’t attack , they react . Personally , I don’t like his system so far . Something is definitely wrong with how we do things during practice also . I have read that Nick Sabans’ training camp is similar to boot camp in its intensity . The results are on the other side if you can endure it . For some reason , I just don’t believe the same goes here at Clemson . I think Chad Morris is the only reason we are where we are this season . I wish he were in control .
I agree that we probably wasted a year of eligibility with some of these guys, but I am pretty sure the coaches promised them they would not RS during the recruiting process.
I like Steel, and I think he is awesome at making adjustments, but I do think that the system is probably too complicated if a guy like Parker can’t get on the field because he does not know what to do. I just think the coaches who have been to the NFL tend to over-complicate things because they are used to players who have virtually unlimited time to pick up the scheme. Those guys are also the best of the best, and probably do not need a ton of coaching on fundamentals, but they do have to get coaching on assignments, which is probably what is emphasized at that level.
"Clemson is coming!" - Stephone Anthony
by Tigerplowboy on Nov 7, 2011 11:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions

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