B1G-ACC Challenge: Clemson vs Iowa
by DrB on Nov 29, 2011 8:17 PM EST
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PrintClemson Tigers at Iowa Hawkeyes, Nov 29, 2011 9:15 PM EST
Right now we're getting the right guys in the right spots in the motion offense, but they just can't shoot the ball and the youngsters won't be ready to take over a game themselves. We need a shooter, which I've said for years now, and we need a scorer like Stitt badly right now to lead them. We've got several guys who cannot create their own shots and need good screens (talking to you Booker) to get them open in the 1/2 court.
I'm really hopeful Devin decides to play basketball this year, because right now he looks even lazier than his brother. I'm hopeful Milton gets his mind right and plays basketball at some point too, because its not a lack of talent that holds him back, its his head.
I think our perimeter defense has been hot garbage at times, and I guess thats to be expected with your best defenders being freshmen. They still tend to get their feet too close to a defender which opens a lane, and hopefully tonight you'll see some of that cleaned up, because the interior defense is worse (talking to you Booker).
Look to see tonight whether Clemson makes enough effort inside to get to the FT line at all and creates more turnovers in transition.
Those of you watching tonight's games can use this as your open comment thread.
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Iowa appears to not exactly be a unbeatable foe and hasn’t for years, so at least we have that going for us. However, it does not take away that we are still an extremely young team and suffer from a pure lack of talent. It is my hope that some of the young guys can start to take strides after a few games under Brownell and the veterans finally do something but that is asking a lot I know. I expect this one to be a grind as most will this season and will see. ACC is up 1-0 on the Big 10 as Virginia upset #15 Michigan and Virginia really looks like a team on the up and up, just our luck we have them twice this year!
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 9:01 PM EST reply actions
And Milton misses a wide open drive to start the game
Sheesh
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
How does Brownell fix his head issues?
Milton is too big, too talented to be having these issues. It’s as if he doesn’t believe he should be on the same court.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Some guys have great basketball IQs and a feel for the game, while some don't
Milton falls into the latter category. Don’t think it is fixable.
And now we have used a timeout, a stupid foul.
Hall needs to move his feet, I know he is a frosh, but basketball is about movement and involving yourself in off ball action to open up others. What we are doing, waiting and praying someone else will move and then heave a three will never work in conference play.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Sapp is really going to be key if were going to be able to score points this year….
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 9:31 PM EST reply actions
Wow Sapp. Nice shot.
I think he could truly develop into another Rivers/Stitt
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Booker for 3
Blind squirrel, meet nut.
"There is something in these hills that you and I can't define and others can't understand. A wave of warmth always surges through me when 'outsiders' say, 'I don't know what it is about you Clemson people, but your undying love for Clemson is admired by everyone I know.'" - Joe Sherman
He's -10% all time from the outside, why should he be shooting from there?
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
NBA ticket
His brother got it by going after everything his Junior year, and being the best in the ACC his Senior. Lets hope Devin follows that.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Team defense has increased with the youth on the court
Looks like we found some guys who buy into Brad’s system
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Sweet block by B-Nice.
..too bad no one else knew what the hell what going on to grab the ball…
"There is something in these hills that you and I can't define and others can't understand. A wave of warmth always surges through me when 'outsiders' say, 'I don't know what it is about you Clemson people, but your undying love for Clemson is admired by everyone I know.'" - Joe Sherman
No kidding about the youth on the court, there for a moment I think we pretty much had true freshman on the court, and I was having to get my roster sheet just to make I had the right guys…
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions
Take a picture
I think we all know it won’t last…
"There is something in these hills that you and I can't define and others can't understand. A wave of warmth always surges through me when 'outsiders' say, 'I don't know what it is about you Clemson people, but your undying love for Clemson is admired by everyone I know.'" - Joe Sherman
Iowa has moved into a 3-2 zone in hopes of cutting down on our offensive rebounds
Would be interesting how we respond
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
They are playing more of slumped set though
Not really challenging us outside, though that could because we are doing an excellent job of moving the ball around
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Also Booker is playing good
But moving slow, I’m interested to finding if he has a cold or is injured
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Oh the 30 day nap, though I think most of us call that a coma
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
BOBO FORCED A TURNOVER
7’-2" against a 5’-nothing point guard.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Seems like were going through that couple of minutes that has plagued almost every game this year, where we turn it over, don’t execute and just don’t play well
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions
3 ball is reigning right now for the Tigers!
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions
BB doesn't completely trust the freshmen, and Young is a better off ball player
Though I agree, there has got to be someone better than T. Smith
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
1st Half Thoughts
I’m surprised to say, but I think we are better when we have a larger combination of our young guys on the court. They seem to create shots, and play better team defense than the starters.
Young and Booker are playing good games right now. Jennings and Smith can’t seem to get out of their own way, though Tanner has created some good opportunities with screens for others.
This year could be BB’s most challenging year for a while in Clemson. With such a gap in the age of most of the kids, he has to get his recruits experienced, while continuing to rely on the athleticism that OP left with his players.
Big 2nd half will be coming up. Iowa will most likely return to the press we should be used to seeing after OP, and Clemson will have to continue to hit the big shots to maintain this lead. I think it can be done, but losses to C of C and CC will haunt us through out this year.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Press
Iowa’s press should not bother us. They’re long, but unathletic and as long as we skip the ball and either immediately center it or reskip the ball then Iowa shouldn’t have the opportunity to trap us. You can NOT hold the ball on the sideline or you’re in trouble. Also, I’d like to see Hall work harder to get the entry pass much quicker. He’s not cutting hard to get open and Iowa again isn’t quick enough where they should give us trouble consistently at the point of attack but we’re having to bring another guy back too many times because Hall imo simply isn’t working his ass off.
I’d also like to see us AS A TEAM run the floor better after rebounds and turnovers. We’re getting 1-3 guys out in transition but we’re not getting 5 guys and if we did, we’d have the chance to run Iowa out of the gym or shoot wide open shot after wide open shot.
This game really makes me miss Stitt if 2 losses already hadn’t.
by OrangeBandit on Nov 29, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Tanner
Can’t dribble the ball under pressure with his left hand. This is the second time in as many games where he’s tried to go left and simply either dribbled the ball out of bounds or dribbled it to the other team.
Booker still pisses me off. Yes he’s played much better this game but 1) if he played like this against CofC and CC we would have won both games and 2) he’s still not playing as hard as he really can and he’s still not giving any focking help on defense. Trevor or Jerai would have about 4 blocks by now because Iowa isn’t athletic at all and they are forcing drives when we’re actually in help position but Booker isn’t rotating over at all still. Focker is going to get us killed against a team with a good and/or big front court if he doesn’t learn to give help. WTS, I like the fact that Weinicki is seemingly in his ear every time he turns around.
Good God Jennings isn’t even comfortable in his own skin. Kid is a mental basket case.
Again, why are not the freshman playing more. Thought they had a very good showing in the first half and showed what they’re capable of. Really liked when we had Book, Milt and KJ/Sullivan on the court. We were very long and athletic.
Two crap turnovers to start the half
Starters are not getting it done. Iowa though, doesn’t seem to want to capitalize. We can not play a paraplegic slap fight and expect to win, or learn how to.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Milton needs to be benched, this is getting ridiculous
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
BOBO GOT A SCORE
And then rolled on the ground
TANNER SMITH WITH THE JAM
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
So much better than the Oglseby Dunk
http://www.casttv.com/video/0vj8ix/terrence-oglesby-missed-dunk-video
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
20 pt lead for the Tigers, just don’t let up guys which can happen with young teams….
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions
Big stat so far
We were beating them 24-13 at the half on rebounds. That is huge, and if we can get continued play like that this team can do anything
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Off Topic
I’d love to punch Steele in his teeth. He thinks we did a good job of stopping the run against USC.
Yeah pretty much said that he didn’t understand why there were so many negative people….b/c we have had to watch 12 games of crappy defense and here your excuses about what went wrong….I wish Dabo would fire him now, b/c it’s not the defense is going to be any better on Saturday. If were going to win were going to have to outscore them, and that is if the line decides to block and Tajh decides he is not too scared to playfootball again..Sorry to rant but you said his name!
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Just tuned in
Is our D that good? And we’re shooting 52% from the field and 50% from the field? Wow.
"Just because you've had 2 or 3 good games doesn't mean anything right now. It's not the first 3 games you're going to be remembered by." - The Chad
50% from three, sorry
"Just because you've had 2 or 3 good games doesn't mean anything right now. It's not the first 3 games you're going to be remembered by." - The Chad
It’s definitely been a good night, but we have made shots and a ton of three’s like 11 or 12 of them and Iowa has been quite helpful as well by not being able to hit anything…
Henderson-Sports 06
MFFL & Caniac
by Henderson-Sports 06 on Nov 29, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
John Swofford should make annoucement thanking Clemson for showing up for the challenge this year. Other games are quite embarrassing for the ACC
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Hard to think this game could have gone any better from looking at the score
but if we turn the ball over like that against better competition, we will be toast. Iowa was really off of their game, and Clemson shot the ball well tonight. We have to minimize those turnovers though. I am tired of the lazy pass from one guard to another at the top of the key. Those are the type of things that give open dunks and give opponents confidence and take ours away.
Jennings just looked lost out their most of the night. Sad :(
I cannot tell you how mad it makes me when we go to inbound the ball and people just stand around. MOVE! Get open!
Glad Clemson could represent the ACC well though. The freshman look like they are going to be something to watch this year :) Go Tigers!
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