Clemson/NCSU Sunday Thoughts
Where do you really start? I'll try not to regurgitate the post-game rant but, unfortunately, you'll have to endure most of the themes drawn last night from the failure at State.
What we saw yesterday was akin to Tom Bowden's tenure in Clemson. There is absolutely no excuse for such a performance particularly when there is so much to gain with a win in Raleigh. Let's review what this team could have accomplished with a win yesterday. Clemson had a chance to secure its 10th win of the season. CU hasn't had a 10 win season since 1990. Clemson was #7 in the BCS and had an outside-while very unlikely, still an outside-shot of sneaking into the MNC game if a large combination of events fell its way. Clemson could have gone undefeated in division play and carried some momentum into next week's football contest down in Columbia. With all this on the line, this is what you get out of the Sweatshirt in his post-game presser:
"Really, poor job of coaching, poor job playing, everything involved and there's no excuse. They wanted more than we did and it's that simple."
These folks had better get their heads out of their asses soon else SCar and VTech will beat their brains in just like NCST. If Dabo wants the respect of a region, the conference, and the nation this is not the way to do it. Getting rolled by a 5-5 team that was 2-4 in conference prior to this contest is unacceptable. This team was not focused, looked confused, and didn't seem to care about this game and it showed.
Dabo's other comments were equally disturbing:
"We looked like an immature team out there tonight. I'm really embarrassed."
Whose fault and responsibility is it to get this team ready to play each week? That's right, Dabs, it's the head ball coach. Why is this team immature? Last I checked, we started one freshman on offense (Adam Humphries) and one on defense (Stephone Anthony I believe was on the field to open play). This means every other starter has been in the Clemson program for at least 1.80 seasons. AND THEY ARE STILL IMMATURE? That sounds like a philosophical issue that starts at the top. They are immature, Sweatshirt, because you don't implement the necessary discipline and practice regimen to work the immaturity out of this team. I suppose the head man will explain away the poor fundamentals we display as a function of immaturity as well? As the old saying goes, "You play the way you practice." Clearly this team needs to revise its practice strategy.
The post-game rant beat the offensive line up almost as bad as the NCST defensive line last night, and they definitely deserve the criticism. Injuries or not, this play was simply unacceptable. The piss poor play up front is the reason this game got ugly. Taylor, Ingram, and Clowney will eat these guys alive, especially if we see the effort put forth in Raleigh. It was no surprise that Clemson got zero push yesterday but I didn't expect to see our Tigers get flat out embarrassed off of speed rushes, bull rushes, and basic inside attempts to get up the field. I am sure Tajh Boyd is particularly happy with his line now as the Wolfpack teed off on him all night.
So, where do we go from here? You cannot turn a soft team into a tough one over Thanksgiving week, so we'll pray that Clemson can get things going with their skills players and maybe took this assbeating to heart. We hope this somehow lights a fire under some folks to fix the obvious outstanding items. We'll also hope that freshman Sammy Watkins can come in and provide the spark needed to move the ball. Ellis Johnson will surely employ a strategy similar as Tech and State employed. This involves getting pressure from the front five then playing zone behind this. If we cannot stop their pass rush, Clemson is done-particularly because run blocking is effectively nonexistent. If Clemson gives Boyd adequate protection, he has to make good decisions with the football.
Defensively, I am not sure why we are 11 games into this season and still look confused all around. The secondary spent every presnap yelling at each other and didn't appear prepared for the play. Additionally, tackling technique was poor...I just cannot get over the fact that we do not wrap up. It is disgusting to watch defenders try to throw a shoulder into the ball carrier. These guys are out of control and give up tons of extra yards due to this poor technique.
Yes Carolina is a beatable team but if the Clemson team that showed up yesterday shows up in the Mecca they will get earholed. We'll get deeper into strategy and what we think of the Gamecocks as the week progresses. Hopefully this offense keeps Melvin Ingram from scoring twice and avoids making Conner Shaw look like Joe Montana circa 1988.
Outside of the Clemson football arena and onto the national scene, the past week's football was ridiculous with Oregon, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State all losing. This essentially makes next week's LSU/Arkansas game incredibly important as the winner will likely play Bammer for the MNC. On the Eastern side of the SEC, Georgia squeaks into the SECCG despite not having the best record in its division. I am really not sure how this is possible. I think that divisions should be decided by interdivision play only. It is a rip-off that UGa skated through a cake schedule while Florida and Tennessee got drilled by the schedule makers. UF played LSU and Alabama in the west. Tennessee played Bama, LSU, and Arky. Both Florida and UT got drilled in each of these games. Georgia on the other hand played Ole Miss, Miss St., and Auburn from the other side. Here is the kicker-each of these games counts the same in terms of crowning a division champ. South Carolina had to play Arkansas (and got embarrassed like the others) but that game essentially cost them their division despite their perfect record in the East and a win over Georgia.
I don't necessarily care about the SEC (it doesn't matter because either UGA or USC would get rolled in Atlanta in two weeks) but think that other conferences-Swofford are you listening?-should reevaluate how division champions are crowned and give more importance to games played against common opponents. This is a big issue with the emergence of superconferences and is one reason I am a proponent of 16-18 team leagues that put a premium on interdivision football games.
This weekend should be another great one for college football fans, with big and important games all over the place. Beginning Thursday, the platter is set for three solid days to give thanks for all the items we are fortunate to enjoy, eating all the turkey and dressing one can stand, and being enthralled in a football overdose. As always, we'll ramp up for our contest and continue to keep an eye on what's going on across the nation and, specifically, how it could affect the bowl schedule.
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It was pure, utter crap yesterday. Obviously Dabo bought into all the hype this team got. I can understand KIDS having this problem, but not him. Its his job to make sure the team doesnt get caught up & he has failed miserably. But with a Bowden holdover leading this team, why shld we expect any different. And until hes gone, we will always b soft. We dont need a players coach, we need a bastard running this team. Someone who will not tolerate things like what we’ve seen up front on offense. How does this group continually get smoked by a 4 man rush? Its unacceptable, no other way to look at it.
by TigerFan74 on Nov 20, 2011 12:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Embarrassment
I am blown away by our team’s lack of personal pride. Unbelievable. We’re 9-2, and I am pissed. That sounds ridiculous, since I envisioned a 7-5 type of season. However, our team is a train wreck, and it has been completely frustrating watching this team self destruct which I think began with our trip to Maryland. We have gotten worse, week after week, which is exactly what happened last year and many times over during the past 20 years. So, basically nothing has changed this year as opposed to years past. We continue to be one the worst under-achieving D1 programs in the nation dropping games to teams we should destroy because we simply refuse to play “football”, and by that I mean play physical smash mouth football. Any team facing us should have the same game plan going in. Hit us as hard they can as fast as they can, and we will fold. How can 5 OL not block 4 DL? Pathetic.
I am shocked that we are 9-2 right now, and I think that our schedule played to our advantage. Coming off of our 6-7 2010 debacle, I think we snuck up on Auburn, FSU, and VT, who probably didn’t take us that seriously since we usually suck. However, a new OC with a new offense and sprinkle in some very gifted athletes, and we were just good enough to win early against some decent teams that came out flat footed against us. As we kept winning, we were no longer flying under the radar and began getting everyone’s best shot, and by that time, it seemed like every opponent we faced had extra motivation: Maryland – at their house at night desparately needed a win to get their season back on track, GT – again, at their house at night desparately needed a win to get their season back on track, Wake – division on the line, and NC St. – coach on hot seat and must win next 2 to get bowl eligible. Be all of that as it may, we (at least on paper) should have beaten all 4 of these teams, but instead, we revert back our old ways and drop 2 of the 4 and have to rely on last minute heroics to eek out the 2 we did win. Again, these teams all have allegedly less talent than we allegedly have, and yet regarless of that, we roll over and play dead when there is something on the line and our opponent comes out inspired. With the way we’ve been playing in the 2nd half of the season, I have no doubt that we would’ve gotten drilled by Auburn, FSU, and VT if we played them in late October/early November and probably dropped the GT game in the very least as well.
At the end of the day, I guess I’m just disappointed that nothing has changed after getting my hopes up yet again and thinking that we may have finally gotten to the crossroads and turned the corner. Nothing will change until the culture of our program changes, and we will continue to get beaten physically by teams with less “talent”. Any notion that this team was “different” or “special” has completely evaporated in my mind, and once again, I feel like I did during much of last season and many seasons past. I’m just hoping we don’t go out there and embarrass ourselves over the next couple of Saturdays. I just cannot believe how down I feel about our 9-2 record at this stage of the season.
Poor fundamenals and soft
I’ve been banging this drum for awhile – and I’m in no way alone in this so I’m not trying to take credit by any means – but we simply don’t ‘block’ and ‘tackle’ better than many of our opponents. We can out-athlete some teams, but we rarely ever out fundamental a team. That’s why the Virginia Tech’s of the world punch us in the mouth and will wear us out in Charlotte in a few weeks. Morris’s offense is better than what Napier did, and I have to admit, I would have been very pleased to go 9-2 at this point in the preseason, but it’s the WAY we go 9-2. I would be much happier if we were 9-2 with losses to FSU and VT (for example) than the same ol’, same ol’ Georgia Tech (vastly better coach than ours) and NC State (typical WTF? game). The reason we lose to teams like GT and NC State is that they know they can’t beat us by running with us, so they out-scheme, out-hustle and basically just take it to the bully and watch the bully lay down.
We have a bitch mentality. Spurrier’s teams are tougher than ours have been under Bowden/Dabo. I’m not one to go crazy on coaches, but I’m starting to really think there is something to the S&C argument. I also think a lot of our problems are due to Dabo gets complacent and starts believing hype. When he said that the team was not doing as much contact before Georgia Tech I knew we were going to fold like a tent. We took our foot off the gas when we started getting national attention, starting believing the hype, and got arrogant. That starts with Dabo, too. Also Kevin Steele has to be in the crosshairs. This is his 3rd year – why are our linebackers still so confused?? He’s had Corico Hawkins, Tig Willard and Quandon Christian their whole careers; they should be very aware of what’s going on. Is his scheme so complicated that our playmakers can’t make plays because of what’s going on between their ears??
by judge jeff davis on Nov 20, 2011 2:24 PM EST reply actions
we need to hire lb coach and recruit better along the offensive line , batson im not sure about until another year with this offense and the training table . it has been obvious for a long time that if we need a yard or an inch the oline simply cannot provide the push needed.its also obvious at the NFL level where clemson puts players at basically every position but never at oline.
Odds of Clemson finishing with 9-wins in a Bowdenesque collapse?
I’d say about 60%.
I'm with the Judge
If we lose Saturday, that % goes to 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 (finger tired).
ditto
It is already 99.99%
GT blow out…
WF squeaker…
NCSU blow up….
I see Global Thermal Nuclear Meltdown with USuC as well as VT….
Astro Bluebonnet bowl???? Hoping for Our Ladies of the Poor….
Mot as Good not as bad
Thanksgiving weekend is usually a good time to reflect upon a season. But with this team its not easy. My belief is that we are not as good as a 9-2 team should be but we are not as bad as we looked on Sat.
Even a good offense will sputter and it usually happens when one or two skill guys go down. Our OL has not helped Ellington all year and when our pass threat gets weak (Watkins injury, and I still dont think Allen is 100 percent) Ellington has no shot because LB’s cheat up on the run.
So it all starts with the OL and if we aint got that we got trouble.
Our D has been terrible all year except at VT (go figure) and our Offense will not be able to win every game with out some defensive help.
I forgot who said it during the Maryland game but the quote was “hey if we have to score 70 to win lets just get it done” (One of the receivers I think)
While he said it as a compliment to the offenses it spoke volumes about our D.
Enough with the “shock the world tour” bull shit. No lets get back to lunchpail mentality. Hopefully Dabo starts coaching and stops cheerleading.
It is only fitting to have these last three weeks determine our season. Either this team puts up and shuts all the “Dabo must go” people up or we will be playing in the Chick bowl and having to live down another disappointing season.
I do think this team and coaching staff will rise to the occasion. I hope I am not wrong.
It was Dwayne Allen
who said we’d score 70 if we had to.
by PenthouseTiger on Nov 20, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
With all of our military heritage...
It would be nice if we could bring in marine corps drill instructors in for 2 hours of boot camp style work outs M-W and use Thur and Friday for installation and walkthrough.. Antoine McCant might just quit before Tuesday’s session begins, solving another problem.
by GrigglesTigers on Nov 20, 2011 6:50 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Problem is no phyiscality at practice
The leadership council (made up of veteran players on the team) has told dabo less practices in pads and Dabo allowed it. Unbelievable.
Here is the direct quote from Travis Sawchick article
Swinney’s leadership council meets every week to discuss ways to keep the team focused and fresh. Swinney listens. The leadership council suggested at one point this season practicing fewer days in full pads and Swinney applied the suggestion.
Read more: http://m.thetandd.com/sports/article_2bbc4a62-0cf4-11e1-a868-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1eIgYiPNK
This is utter bullshit
You never ask players how they want to practice. If you do the players never want harder practices, thats the job of a coach to design practices to work the players to death. I remember early on in the year that Morris talked about making the games a cakewalk compared to the practices. I guess the players didnt like that idea and went around Morris through this leadership council. What an F’ing joke. This is why Dabo has no business being a head coach the guy is too worried about being liked by the players and being their buddy.
That Leadership council
hurt their team. I hope they see that and do what they need to do in order to fulfill their title and LEAD this team.
by PenthouseTiger on Nov 21, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions

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