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Thoughts on Napier, Powell, and Chad Morris

Theres been a ton of debating on whats next for Clemson's offense with the firing of Napier and Powell. Everybody worries "are we gonna be a spread team?" or "what about the recruits?"

As for the second, you just need to worry about finding good coaches, then the recruits will come. Our facilities are (hopefully, with the IPF) getting to a level where just about any idiot can sell Clemson well. The last decade has proven that you cannot outrecruit incompetent coaches. We can't even develop the ones we have now, so worrying about a coach leaving or being fired and his affect on the commitment is pointless. I fully expect to lose one or two, simply because it always happens, and I expect to steal one or two because that also always happens. If a player commits to the school and the head coach, and is 100% with that commitment, he won't flip. If he's looking for a way out of his commitment, this is just impetus to go and he wasn't really committed in the first place. So I'm not even going to worry about it. Find me a coach who can get the best out of the Top 25 talent we have on campus now please.

Now for Napier.....

People complain Napier was promoted to OC without any experience running an offense, well Duh thats how it usually goes everywhere. Everybody starts out as a GA and moves up. The problem is who he is taking control of this offense from and who is really changing his calls to match a different philosophy from his own.

I said last year when it came up about Swinney changing calls that Napier would be the fall guy no matter what, because the fans immediately place blame on the offense/defense performance on the coordinators, particularly when one side of the ball is doing well. I said it again this season, and here we are.

Clemson's games should show any of you who understand football strategy that there are two minds in the playcalling. Our offense looked different pre-Maryland last year. It looked different again to start this season, and has further progressed away from that. That is proof that there is some derision in regards to offensive philosophy. There is no doubt in my mind that Swinney is either directing the offense the way he wants it in the game, or is dictating Billy call more 3-4 WR sets on Monday in the game prep.  One man would have this offense shifted one way or the other, you can win with the I-formation and you can win with the spread. What matters is continuity in the instruction of the offense and carrying practice over to the game and being committed to ONE philosophy.

We don't do that. We look like shit on Saturday, so I'd be willing to bet we look like shit every day in practice. The most telling thing to me on tape, no matter who is calling plays, is fundamentals. We have none. Thats down to fundamental coaching minutes in practice, which can be a substantial part of each day's hours. We don't exert the effort, so changes must be made whether Billy is really at fault or not. Kyle Parker's fundamentals are not there, and neither are Boyd's. Billy is the QB coach. So do we support Napier's firing? Yes, changes must be made and Dabo made them. Do I think Billy Napier got a raw deal? Yes.

Look at this situation from your own perspective. Do you want to be held responsible for work you didn't screw up at  your job? Lets say you are a fairly new hire at your company, and through retirement or whatever, you got quickly promoted because there was no one else to do the job. Your boss gives you an important assignment or project to manage. You stumble along the way and have no one with experience in that job to turn to for help. You figure it out and start doing things right for awhile, and then your boss comes in and shits all over your project, demanding this and that and then goes and changes your reports to fit his thinking. You were doing an average job on it, and he messes it up further because he doesn't agree with your conclusions. The customer sees the end result of his meddling and is pissed, refusing further support, and then your boss fires you so he looks good.

Thats about how I see this whole thing, but with the fundamentals not there, I cannot defend Napier. I'm holding both he and Dabo responsible for that lack of attention to details. That is, in part, why I would've let Billy go.

The other is that the Coach must have a philosophical continuity with his staff, or at least let them coach what they know best. Swinney wants a blitzing pressure defense, and got Steele for that reason. He wanted to throw the ball around, and promoted a guy who would prefer to run the ball and use play-action. He let him do that post-Maryland last year and then changed it all up this year. Wrong move. In his next hire, he must pick a guy who he agrees with philosophically, and then let him do his job. If he then meddles and sticks in some stupid reverse or flea-flicker with a guy who doesn't like teaching such gimmicks, it'll crash and burn once again. I'll guarantee that.

That is one reason why I don't think Ralph Friedgen is really a candidate, though he really wants this job. Friedgen is pro-style, with great experience running offenses. Dabo wants none of that.

Dabo also isn't going to hire anyone who is a threat to him. An established coach can hire former head coaches to his staff easily. Bobby Williams works for Saban, who followed him at Michigan State. Mike Archer (LSU) works for Tom O'Brien. Galen Hall (Florida) works for Joe Pa. That doesn't work so well for a younger guy who is fighting to keep his job. Rich Rodriguez is relatively young, has great experience as an OC and HC, and can recruit, so he's a definite no. Fridge will run an NFL-style system, was just Coach of the Year, and will want full control of the offense as well, so he's a definite no.

Dabo isn't going to hire an older established guy who will tell him to shut the hell up when Dabo calls a single Pistol play that was repped 10x in practice all year. He wants control of the offensive side. If he hired either RF or RR, they'd quit in a year.

So that means you're going to get a relatively younger coach without a ton of experience to outshine Dabo's lack thereof. I think the hiring of inexperienced (or just plain bad, in Powell's case) staff members is what got us into this whole mess in the first place, but thats what we'll get.

I don't have an opinion yet on Chad Morris, the first name to be dropped and interviewed. This could be no different than hiring Bobby Bentley to OC. I don't care about his stats in HS or the one year at Tulsa. If you try to tell me that Texas HS football = Div 1-AA, or even that 1-A Texas A&M wanted him, all I need to do is mention Todd Dodge. Todd Dodge won 4 5-A State titles in 7 years at Southlake Carroll, coaching Chase Daniel and Greg McElroy, and bombed at North Texas, going 6-37. He got fired a few weeks into this year.

I am NOT saying that Morris will do better or worse, or that he'd be an awful hire, but success at HS does not guarantee any of it will carry over to BCS football. I will say that usually a coach who excels in HS is a really good teacher, because you don't have time to teach kids (who may have known nothing pre-9th grade) too many complex schemes in HS football. You give them simple reads and it lets them make decisions quickly, which bodes well for Tajh Boyd. I would not be worried about stunting any development.

Hiring Morris could be like hiring the next Malzahn, I don't know. I will say what I think does matter in the stats he has put up at Tulsa, and thats the improvement from the year before. I have respect for the program they run there at Tulsa since Kragthorpe put it together (though he sucked at Louisville), they always seem to find guys to coach that fit their personnel, which I believe is as good as or better than the rest of their conference. I think Todd Graham is a good coach. They can out-athlete the teams on their schedule much of the time. Morris did do well there, and improved the offense considerably. Improvement over time tells me the coach is doing things right. What I want to see when I watch film on Tulsa for the rest of this week is how they are at fundamentals and whether the team improved each week of the season. That will tell me whether this is a good hire, not his scheme or stats.

The little things are what we don't do right. That is what will tell me if this is a good hire. I advise everyone to trust their own eyes before statistics. Statistics are an indicator, not proof of success. Rob Spence should've taught you that.

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I respect your opinion, but the man has a definite opinion about how he wants his team to play.

If you were the head coach, and you hired me to be the OC and said that you wanted an I-formation offense, and I went off and came back with a spread offense, then would you tell me I could go run whatever I wanted, or would you tell me to change it and run what you told me to run? I totally agree that you can’t have too many people calling plays, but if I order steak, then I want steak. You could bring me the best chicken in the world, but it is still not what I ordered.

There is something in these Hills!

by Tigerplowboy on Jan 4, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't Dabo have known that before promoting Napier to OC?

Hypothetically, if Dabo were to hire Fridge, he wouldn’t ask him to run the spread because he knows that isn’t Fridge’s style. So if he knew Napier was an I-formation guy, why promote him if Dabo wants to spread it out?

Or to use your analogy, why go to KFC if you want to order a steak?

by ggggmen08 on Jan 4, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Presumably, but you don't know what Napier told Dabo when he was hired.

I think they were close, Napier is a great recruiter (which is important to Dabo), and Napier said whatever he had to say in order to get the job, just like most people do when they want to be hired for a job. It is not like Napier had a lot of other OC opportunities at that time.

If RF wants the job, then he just needs to drive home the point that he can win big right away with the players who are expected to be there next season if he is given control of the offense, and point to how he turned MD around in his first season. MD sucked, RF became head coach, and they went to the Orange Bowl the next season.

There is something in these Hills!

by Tigerplowboy on Jan 4, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No, we dont know what was said.

But Dabo and Napier are no longer close, I know that much. Dabo knows Napier prefers a run-oriented attack and kept him anyway, so its still his fault. He watched the team all last year, he knows that Napier prefers that, so its not like he can get mad at him for doing what worked again.

I wouldn’t hire a japanese sous chef to cook my Texas Ribeye and then have him teach all the other cooks how to do it. That doesnt make any sense. If I hire a japanese chef to cook it, it means i’m stupid.

Also, you cannot just give a directive to a guy who knows one thing and have him install and run something he has no feel for. You can’t hire Leach and tell him to run the ball 45 times a game, he wouldn’t have a clue what to do. Same goes for Napier.

by DrB on Jan 4, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree Napier should not have been hired in the first place.

But Napier obviously said whatever he had to say in order to get himself hired, because he otherwise would not have been hired. It is not as though an OC is not going to be familiar with various philosphies.

There is something in these Hills!

by Tigerplowboy on Jan 5, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I get from what youre saying

that Napier lied to Dabo’s face when he was hired. I don’t see that in any way, shape or form. Dabo looked at what was left when Spence walked out the door and saw a young guy, who was a great recruiter and pretty bright, Powell, and Brad Scott who didn’t do a great job with it 3-4 years beforehand and wasn’t doing well with his OLine. Not a hard choice on who to sell to the fanbase.

He knew Napier’s background, and I’m sorry but when you work your whole life in football with your dad (option/I-form), I-form at FU, and Spence’s Run & shoot based system, youre going to go with what you know best—not branch out and try installing a Chip Kelly offense without experience teaching it.

When things didnt work last year, Napier went with what he knew, and we scored lots of points. Dabo knew it, went with it, and for whatever reason completely blew that out of the water this year and told Billy to teach what he doesnt know.

by DrB on Jan 5, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

We will agree to disagree.

I don’t think Napier lied, but maybe he made a promise he had every intention of keeping but could not keep.

There is something in these Hills!

by Tigerplowboy on Jan 6, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

who he hires

determines where he is in 2012 . Dabo is a good motivator , and can pump sunshine in hell if he needed too but I don’t buy him being smart enough to find the right fit for Clemson – just the right fit for Dabo .

by tyeargin on Jan 3, 2011 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

Excellent Analysis

No doubt Napier was not ready for the OC job and is getting screwed. However, he will find a good job and climb the ladder again.
Agree that Dabo needs to find someone philosophically compatible if this hire is going to work. Too bad that he won’t hire Friedgen, cuz that would be the surest bet. The new OC really needs to be able to coach all offensive positions, particularly the OL. I think Friedgen fits that the best.
As far as Morris goes – who knows? He could be the next Rich Rod or Malzahn, or another Spence or Steve Ensminger.
Unfortunately, this reminds me of the Tommy West era, and I suspect it will end similarly.

by HJPirate on Jan 3, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

I don't any est. coaches would want to work for Dabo.....

in this situation. Why would somebody like Friedgen or Chow want to come here? He will only have one year to keep their job. Plus we won’t spend the money needed to get an experienced coach. I guarantee it will be Morris type guy that we can get on a budget. Hopefully we will get lucky and get a gem.

by WC ScottyP on Jan 3, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

Because RF understands how good the defense is.

He also understands the talent CU has and can attract and I would bet that he is supremely confident in his ability to coach the offense into a winner.

If CU or any ACC team for that matter was to somehow be able to develop a potent offense, they could potentially dominate the league.

RF’s offense would not be as dynamic like a Holgerson or Malzhan but it does not have to be to win in the ACC.

by TigerEast on Jan 3, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

How good the defense is? The defense wasnt all that, this year. And USF, one of the

worst offenses in the nation, shredded them at will. So lets get off the “we have a nasty defense” here. We dont, not even close. Any team that we played that had even a mediocre offense moved the ball at will on us.

by IhateUSuC on Jan 5, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think most of our defensive woes...

were a result of our offense not executing. I’m sure our defense would not have given up so many points if the offense had put up more than 3 point on those first three tries down the field.

by WC ScottyP on Jan 5, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely disagree with that.

Nasty – no. Better up front than we were last year, worse in the secondary.

Put in bad positions? check.
Lost both starting corners? check.
Spending entire games on the field due to a shitty offense? check.

Don’t see how they’re supposed to be Top 10 in total D like you expect when you have those things.

by DrB on Jan 5, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

This OC hire will probably buy Daboo 2 more years.

If that plays out, it will mean basically 15 years of TB and his disciples leading our football program. That makes me noxious.

by TigerEast on Jan 3, 2011 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

Yep. If the offense bombs again next year, he's got a built in excuse "well we're learning a new

offense, give us a few years to learn it…."

The offense really needs to step up next year, no way the defense can be as good as this year with the personnel losses with no real qualified backups to replace them. Daquan, Jenkins, Chavis, McDaniel, Gilchrist, Maxwell; thats 6 damn good players gone and their backups are a mere shadow of these guys.

by IhateUSuC on Jan 3, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

This hire will tell me a lot about Dabo. Does he have the fortitude to hand over full control

of the offense to an experienced guy? With our talent and big boy Ralph coaching them, we could make serious noise next year. But you’re right, RF will want total control of the offense and offensive staff. I think dabo thinks he knows best and will go out and get a young guy with no experience just so he wont be intimidated by them. We shall see.

But one thing that really makes me nervous is becoming a pure passing spread team where we throw it 50 times a game. Bill Parcells always says, your defense is married to your offense. If you have a finesse offense, you’re going to have a finesse defense by default. We already went through that and Alabama showed us why that doesnt work. You cant have a mauling offensive line when you’re constantly dropping in to pass protection 50 times a game. O-line like to be aggressive and move forward, not backwards.

One last note, how in the hell is our strength and conditioning coach still have a job? He should have been the first guy shown the door.

by IhateUSuC on Jan 3, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Dabo will dabbo do what Dabo will yabba dabba do

because Dabo is still smelling himself out of his own ass . To me it is clear that Dabo knows he is in way over his head , and his football / coaching mind is too fucking numb to understand the core problems of the football team , so he just started by making Napier and Powell his first job saving changes . More to come though , if he is as smart as he thinks he is . Dabo is too dumb too understand S+C , and has no idea what gets results……….therefore results don’t matter I guess ? I think Dabo thinks he can sunshine pump players into winning with his optimism .

Dabo = Gilligan
Fridge = Skipper

by tyeargin on Jan 4, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I will say that usually a coach who excels in HS is a really good teacher, because you don’t have time to teach kids (who may have known nothing pre-9th grade) too many complex schemes in HS football.

That’s not necessarily true, especially if you’re coming from Texas and especially if you come from a perenially good program. Often times, the kids have been playing football for several years before they get to high school.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Jan 4, 2011 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

As far as technique goes, a large chunk of them will have none.

90% of good players at lower levels do it just because theyre so much bigger/stronger/faster than the kids they play against. Most of them really don’t have technique.

by DrB on Jan 4, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That goes for high school too

I dont think that means that winning in high school means you are a good teacher. At least, not automatically.

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Jan 4, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I think it's less than usually...

Let the semantics war begin!

"If I have asthma, they won't let me scuba. And if I can’t scuba, then what’s this all been about?? What am I working toward??"

"You look like you should be married to one of the San Diego Padres."

by Doghnut on Jan 5, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

tulsa offense

I watched them against Hawaii yesterday , the entire game is on youtube. I wasn’t impressed. Johnson is quick and got alot of yac. Did have one set that was interesting with the qb in shotgun, a back on each side and one behind him. but the only thing I saw him do from it was handoff to the one behind him and use the other two as lead blockers. I guess I’m just not a fan of the spread. Off topic , man did Stanford look well coached or what?

by palmettodeuce on Jan 4, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

Stanford looked great !!!

That’s the kind of offense I would love to see in Clemson !!! If I were in Stanford I would sure hate to see Harbuagh go , because they really are well coached .

by tyeargin on Jan 4, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Spot on Analyisis.

Speaking of that, It’s interesting finally watching the Clemson “pay websites” start entering the conversation of what we’ve all been talking about here for the past 3 or 4 months. All of the sudden they’ve just decided to finally wake up and acknowledge the actuality of the situation from this past year.

This site has done a great job of cutting through the toilet paper and getting to the sh!#. Thanks fellas.

by TheKraken on Jan 4, 2011 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

I greatly appreciate it.

I hate that some news and thought that does or should concern ALL of Clemson’s supporters is hidden behind some stupid arbitrary pay wall.

by mdlusk on Jan 4, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Justin Fuente from TCU

Looks like Dabo will be interviewing Justin Fuente the co-OC at TCU.

by AugustaTigerFan on Jan 4, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

My fear is that Dabo hires an mediocre OC who gets Clemson back to Tommy Bowden teaser (one-play-away) win-levels...

… and we end up in another decade of upper-mediocrity, with the administration, the coach-fans, and the tailgate-social-hour crowd having just enough ammunition to justify keeping Dabo.

I think Dr. B’s analysis is spot on.

by RazzMcTazz on Jan 4, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

My fear is that Steele or Harbison jumps ship

and then Dabo has to retool both sides of the ball, loses the entire class, and 2011 is screwed royally.

by DrB on Jan 4, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That's really looking more and more possible.

Especially with all the players we lose on the defense this year.

by mdlusk on Jan 4, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If that happens, clemson will be screwed for quite a while. having a good season usually

pays off for recruiting two years down the road because everybody is getting on the guys as sophomores and juniors now. Like we had on the field success in 2009, and our 2011 signing class was looking top notch. We already have a huge hole becasue we only signed 12 guys in 2009, 2010 class was solid, not really good or great. This year’s class was looking super. If we lose them, clemson’s fucked for the foreseeable future. the 2010 on the field season was garbage, so dont expect much in recruiting for 2012. If the 2011 on the field season sucks too, we’ll be dead as a football program for a number of years.

by IhateUSuC on Jan 5, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that is very likely.

I am afraid we are watching the wheels come off the wagon.

There is something in these Hills!

by Tigerplowboy on Jan 5, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I should add that, although I think it was a huge mistake to hire Dabo, I hope he hires a guy who brings us a national championship in2011 and decades of success.

I’m disgusted that Clemson’s administration WASTED TWO YEARS by hiring Dabo. You think that a great head coach would have hired Napier as OC and kept him for TWO YEARS? No way. If Clemson had hired a great coach instead of Dabo, Clemson could have been ACC champs with a Top 15 finish in 2009, and could have been at least Atlantic champs with a Top 25 finish in 2010. TWO YEARS WASTED, while SCAR and FSU grew stronger.

by RazzMcTazz on Jan 4, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldnt agree more. I was sooooo against hiring dabo, But once they hired him, I

wanted nothing but complete success for him and clemson football. It pains me that I was right about him being an idiot and not worthy of coaching peewee football because that means clemson football is sucking.

by IhateUSuC on Jan 5, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone from the Austin area here. I’ll just say that he’s regarded as an offensive genius around here; one who has the intelligence to succeed at any level of football. He was mentioned as a possible candidate for the Texas offensive coordinator job; partly because his former quarterback, Garrett Gilbert, is here, of course, but not for that reason alone. He’s an excellent character guy. He likes the throw it a lot, which is very much the Texas way of doing things, but he’ll run it just fine. You have to use one to set up the other.

Anyway, we’re all very proud of him in Austin and have the utmost confidence that he’ll succeed at Clemson. We all think he’s on the fast track to becoming a head coach somewhere. He’ll see Clemson very much as his proving ground. Your success will determine his success. Expect to succeed.

by LookinForIt on Jan 9, 2011 5:41 PM EST reply actions  

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