Nancy Post-- How Can You be Taken Seriously Dressed Like a Clown?
This is one of those topics that really doesn't have much to do with the actual gameplay, but really gets to us here at STS.
At one point in history, the nation saw Clemson's gear and admired it. The paw helmet with the traditional uniforms got plenty of pub and respect from folks around the country. Over the past 10 or so years, Clemson has done its best to rival Oregon and '80's South Carolina for the greatest number of uniform combinations for one single football team. See below, Clemson currently incorporates nine (9) possible uniform combinations which is 7-8 combos more than is necessary.
Why is this a big deal? Perception is reality. Good football teams follow tradition and uniforms are part of that tradition. Quick example: What will Alabama, USC (So Cal), or Oklahoma wear each week? Yeah, you can bet your life that these teams don't go off the map with their fashion styles. Thus, it is important to establish a recognizable brand. Otherwise, it hurts my eyes (and my heart) to show up at the stadium on Saturday or turn on my television and see this crap. Had Clemson actually won something worthwhile in purple, I may give a little more of a buffer but that is not the case.
How did this start? In 1970 Clemson redesigned its look. The Tigers adopted the Tigerpaw that year then sported orange shirts/white pants at home and white on white on the road. Coach Ford, prior to the 1980 South Carolina game, brought out the special orange pants and the Tigers upset the visiting Gamecocks in Death Valley. This uniform combination became a tradition: orange on white at home, white on white on the road, and orange pants for big games at home (if the team deserved to wear them). The lone exception to this rule was Danny's final road game when he let the seniors beat the shit out of our fine feathered friends in Columbia in orange pants. And yes, eveybody but Danny must obey these rules (DF has proven himself and consequently can do whatever he feels like doing).
Well, your boy Ken Hatfield decided it would be a good idea to use orange pants on the road all the time and, in 1991 against NC State, to bust out the purple shirt in a win over the Wolfpack (he chose to get his ass handed to him against Cal in Orlando in purple jerseys also). We did not see the purple in Clemson for another decade and our biggest uniform concern was the blatant disregard for the orange pants tradition.
Then comes brother Tom, introducing all sorts of uniform combinations. Purple on white, orange on purple, purple on purple, white on purple. Nothing but ridiculous and almost like spitting in the face of Clemson tradition.
Tom came out and spewed some garbage along the lines of the players like purple and want to express themselves. That is complete crap, as no one should be able to look like such in public or on national TV. Newsflash Tom: I like rocking sweatpants and a T-Shirt, but don't leave home or go to work in that gear because I would look like a fool.
Nothing pissed me off more than the 2004 Carolina game at Clemson. The university president, IPTAY, the whole lot of them sent out an email to the entire student body and fan base. They set up a huge ad campaign. The core message was "SolidORANGE". EVERYBODY was encouraged to wear their orange gear, well everyone but the Clemson football team. Yes that is right, on SolidORANGE Saturday your boy Tom Bowden prances this team out in purple shirts. Apparently Keith Kelly was pissed about this one too, as shown below:

What excuses were given for these stupid uniform combinations? Tom said that recruits dig the wild colors. I really think this is a load of crap. How many times have you ever heard a recruit come out and say "I liked a bunch of schools including Clemson, but what really turned me on to the Tigers was the ability to rock out in purple on football Saturdays"?
So, for the record, this is how Clemson should dress:
Home Attire:
Road Attire:

National Championship and Big Game (when the team is deserving) Attire:



This is unacceptable and looks ridiculous:



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I wish we had a thumbs up feature for comments like this one. Purple unis flat out suck.
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not that i'm huge on purple uni's...
but, i would imagine a lot of it has to do with $$$. if we decided to do a purple jersey, nike would put one out… which means, we would need to wear it at some point during the season. correct me if i’m wrong.
Winning only matters when it matters.
This post is an inspiration
Succinct, concise and eloquent. I like it.
I’ve seen many a Clemson v Georgia battle over my years and I have always thought that the all-white combo road “look” was one of the very best combos in all of football. There’s a certain beauty in simplicity. The whole orange on orange (as much as I hate orange) was probably a psychological advantage. You guys probably innovated that whole look. And you can’t use it too much or else it dilutes the entire effect over time. It just becomes regularly rotated combination. And don’t get me started on that whole purple on purple thing. You guys look like a bunch of damned grapes. Since when do grapes instill fear in an opponent? (unless you are French and happen to be embroiled in some kind of “wine war,”).
Seriously, Clemson had an awesome look that was unique. How many schools can say that? Ditch that gimmicky stuff.
By the way, if anyone wants a used UGA black helmet for an ashtray or planter, they’re quite cheap. They make an excellent door stop, too. Can’t vouch for their effectiveness in actual football games, though.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
I hate those damned black hats.
This advice re: solid orange seems to me to be good advice re: black jerseys. I always thought once every 4 years with the black tops would keep it special and not wear it out.
not drunk, just overserved
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Jul 14, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Along those same lines, I believe that UGa is foolish to stray from the silver britches and either white or red shirts.
Anytime Georgia wears anything otherwise, it just doesn’t look like UGa (I don’t know how else to explain it).
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You should try running out in black helmets!!!
its teh awesome

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Jul 14, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Those who have heard of the new uniforms for this season say its more 90s style
more plain like it used to be but with the newer materials.
Incidentally, I don’t like the sheen of the new materials, the orange doesnt look as deep as it used to.
I agree DrB. I'm all about tradition!
And we havent won crap with any of these stupid uniforms. Lets stick with tradition and get back to the elite of college football. Uniforms cant help us do that!
i agree completely.
Players need to learn to give 100 percent every week no matter who they are playing or what color uniforms they are wearing. I think Dabo is right when he says you have the same routine no matter if you win or lose or who you are playing. IMO, changing the uniforms changes the routine, and that is not a good thing. Also, the team looks like a bunch of idiots if they change the uniform and then get whipped. See our game against VT in 2007, or UGA against bama in Athens in 2008 for examples.
Like you, I am somewhat partial to the orange britches, but they need to put them up for about two years and then only pull them out about once every two years, and certainly no more than once a year.
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by Tigerplowboy on Jul 11, 2010 4:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Where can I sign the petition to support our true school color?
Whatever happened to tradition? Clemson’s school color is ORANGE. Does anyone dispute that?
Let’s not confuse the supporting trim with the school’s traditional color. The purple unis make us look like clowns searching for an identity — not the proud Orange-clad Tigers of years past. And they have spread to our other sports’ unis like some kind of teenage fad.
If someone can point me to the petition to bring back our TRADITIONAL SCHOOL COLOR, I wil sign it.
by southernfootballfan on Jul 11, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
it's true colorS... not color. orange and purple. you can even go back to our
VERY FIRST game… we wore purple jerseys. no lie. that was the norm. then we we added an orange jersey later on. and from what I can tell, we wore all purple unis starting in 1942. purple is just as much a traditional color as orange is.
Winning only matters when it matters.
Purple jerseys in 1896? Really? Really???
Take a look for yourself:
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/clem/sports/m-footbl/100-years/1896-team-lg.jpg
by southernfootballfan on Jul 11, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
check again..
this is straight from my Clemson Football Vault book. sorry I don’t have links.
an excerpt about the first game:


here’s a couple from around the 1930-40’s


Winning only matters when it matters.
by knightiger on Jul 12, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank God...
We distanced ourselves from purple and gold.
by auburn tigers on Jul 15, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not kidding.
Who should we write to about this nonsense?
by southernfootballfan on Jul 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions
figurefour, we have had this conversation more times than i can count...
and you know i completely agree… excellent article…
glad to see you are still bumping through…I have a few articles coming though that I think you will appreciate
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Are you kidding?
I like traditional uniforms. Having said that, it doesn’t matter what the uniform is. The current players like the purple. Grow up. The best team wins; most of the time. i don’t understand all the criticism. The Clemson fan base is very strange. as are the web sites that cover them. Who needs enemies with friends like Cris Ard, Larry Williams, etc?
Honestly...
I could give a fuck what uni’s we wear….As a Ford man, I’m partial to 80’s tradition of orange jerseys/white pants for home games, white on white for road games, and all orange for big games. But hey, purple IS an official color for us, and if the seniors want to incorporate it, I think it should be up to them. Ultimately, we need to get back to smashmouth, hard-nosed football fundamentals…we do that and it won’t matter what the team wears.
Agree with everything here.
At least they have not had the cojones to change the helmet color. It would provoke a justified riot.
You old farts. Oregon Ducks are league champs despite uniforms. Let's do that.
You guys sound like old fuddy duddies. “When I was a boy, Clemson only wore orange and white. And the coach never texted anyone. Everything has gone to crap.”
Florida wears a wide range of uniforms (including retro uniforms) and they seem to do just fine. You can whine that Oregon has no identity, but they’re the Pac-10 champs.
I don’t care if they wear pink bowties as long as they win. Personally, I don’t like the white-on-white, orange-on-orange, or purple-on-purple look. All of the other combinations are fine with me. Purple-over-orange looks great.
I don’t recall ever seeing orange-over-purple. Anybody got a picture of that?
Holy crap! I can’t believe I’m discussing football fashion. I guess over the years my wife has gotten me in touch with my feminine side. I gotta go. I think I just shat my leotards.
Florida changed theirs in the 90s
since Spurrier won something, it dont matter.
We havent won shit in purple, like he said. If we had, our views would be a bit more lenient.
Personally I like the uniform combinations that are available
And though I am only a mere recent Tiger convert (’04) and went to school during the late Tammy years when the Purple on Purple came out, I can understand why someone would be up in arms about it all. Though I know it does sell to the players, and recruits, just as much as the stadium does. I do like how Dabo has moved us back into a more traditional unifrom style though, the larger paw and the striped pant leg. Oh and the white on white look is awesome in my opinion.
As well, isn’t that a picture of Yusef Kelly up top? I don’t know who Keith Kelly is
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
He's Yusef when he's beatin the shit out of people
otherwise he goes back to Keith
by DrB on Jul 12, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can't believe you guys actually posted this here
I expect this stuff at Tnet.
There is no magic to what colors you wear. And no, the magical orange pants didn’t lose their mojo because of somebody screwing up after the magical Danny Ford.
Those pictures a few posts up show that purple IS a traditional color. That’s just how it is. Although some people don’t like it, that does not change the fact.
So when you say say FUCK PURPLE UNIS, you are saying FUCK CLEMSON’s TRADITIONAL SCHOOL COLOR because purple is a school color, even if you don’t like it.
Tradition didn’t start with Danny Ford and the uniforms the team wore at that time.
But, everyone has there own preferences. We can say whatever we want because the people who choose the colors aren’t posting on this board.
FUCK CLEMSONS TRADITIONAL PURPLE COLOR.
it looks like shit and should only be an accent.
Like it is on this site.
Ok, that's funny. You win.
You don’t like purple. I like all orange or all white myself.
Anyway, hope there some football stuff coming soon…
The Purple Sucks
Orange and White plain and simple.
I have always had the theory, once team start changing uniforms and messing with the designs, they’re trying to reinvent themselves and trying to change the losing tradition into a new and improved tradition (I.E. Tampa Bay Bucs, Seattle Seahawks) Look how many time Maryland has changed just their helmets. Since 1977 they have changed the helmets 5 times, Wake Forest, 6 times and if you look at a team that has been traditionally bad, Rutgers they have change their helmet 8 time since 1977 all 3 school are making up for their lack of winning. If Clemson wants to rekindle the old POWER tradition of the Tigers during the 1980’s, then go back to the 1980’s look, and operate like a team that have maintained a real winning tradition. No gimmicks, all purple uniforms or helmets stickers are for little kids and high school. Hell if I had it my way every school would either look like Bama, Penn St or Ohio St.
by Vince Giardino on Jul 12, 2010 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
Messing with designs
Oregon started letting Nike’s creative group design its unis in 1999. Prior to this, they had worn variations on a sort of lame Green Bay Packers ripoff for 40 years.
10 win seasons, 1988-1998: 0
10 win seasons, 1999-2009: 5
Average # wins, before: 6.8
After: 8.7
Bowl record before: 2-5
After: 5-5
Not insinuating that the only difference was the unis. Changing the unis up doesn’t make a team a loser. And in Oregon’s case there wasn’t enough tradition to get excited about abandoning the old gear (although that didn’t stop the complaints from the alumni).
I do agree, however, that the Purple sucks. Especially mixed with orange. Gag.
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in other news
do yall think cortez davis’s recent commitment is trustworthy
With him...
I am not trusting him until signing day…
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
No, so I wont put up any story on him.
I think with Lane as his teammate, we have staying power here, but I dont think he really “gets it” with the whole commitment thing.
I am obviously in the minority
I dislike the white on white because it is so plain. I actually prefer the white on purple for road games but I understand the issues that you guys that have been around longer than me would have with it. I have no quarrels with the purple and I think it looks great as long as it is not over-worn. I do like that Dabo enlarged the tiger paw on the helmet because it was so damn small before, as well as the more basic pants. I think there is a fine line and we are not crossing it.
I feel comparing us to Oregon is way over the top. We do not have 6 different helmets to wear.
by Clemson Caniac on Jul 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
larger paw
yeah I am happy Dabo went back to the large paw, I guess CTB reason for the small paw was; so it wouldn’t interfere with putting on the achievement stickers. that’s a crock, back in the day the team had both the large paw and achievement stickers.
As a Tech fan, purple-on-purple just reminds me of the 2006 CJ Spiller-James Davis neckstomp exposition and Calvin Johnson shutdown
So I wholeheartedly cosign this post.
Excuse my language, ma'am, but that damn Dodd's gonna beat my butt today. -- Bear Bryant, November 1962
Hey that's it
Maybe we should only wear the Barney Unis when we play GT!
by cdtbud on Jul 12, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate that combo
i usually don’t care one way or the other but i hate purple on purple looks, god aweful. the rest of them i could care less purple over orange, orange over purple its all fine with me unless its solid orange day
by Tigershine88 on Jul 13, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
100% Agree
I am with you 100% on the uniforms.
Recruit Angle
From a purely recruit and player angle they love this stuff. Alternate colors, alternate helmets, pro combat uniforms and gloves. All of it gets eaten up by recruits on season and offseason visits.
Getting to wear different combinations is something current players love. That’s why when they get to pick they always go with a different look. When recruits walk into Dabo’s office or the equipment room you better believe that Clemson, just like every other school has got 2-5 different helmet combos set up and in the equipment room they’ve got a ton of uni combos as well.
Nike, Under Armor, Reebok etc have hit on a player friendly movement that splits from what fans want. For every fan that complained about Pro Combat, Purple uniforms etc there is a recruit or current player that thought those things were badass.
It boils down to who you want to please/impress more; players or fans. Its going to be players. We’ve seen USC (the multicolored sleeves), Ohio State (pro combat) and Texas (pro combat) adjust their look at times in recent years. It is hear to stay, just hope you win in them.
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by InTheBleachers on Jul 14, 2010 9:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think Clemson fans don't realize how we are not unique when it comes to Uniform
discussions like this one. I frequently see folks saying “do you think _ fanbase ever talks about this garbage?” You think because Gamecock fans debate it, that it must be borderline homosexual to talk about.
The ones with the traditional simple uniforms dont because the higher-ups wouldnt dare change them and suffer the wrath of the fanbase. If Bama switched to an A and an elephant on the helmet their fans would go apeshit. If Penn State put their Nittany Lion logo on the helmet they’d go apeshit. Uniforms are your identity, and with Clemson’s brand that doesnt get represented enough nationwide, you risk losing any visual brand gains you achieved in your better days of football.
Georgia fans do debate whether to wear black the same way we do orange. They once wore red pants and may again, but its the silver britches that they identify with traditionally. If they started wearing only black or red pants, they’d go nuts.
LSU fans would have a fit if they wore only purple jerseys at home. They wore the white homes during the 1958 national title season and that tradition was lost over the years, but was brought back a decade ago. Now if you made them switch they’d raise hell.
Just because you argue about it doesnt mean other teams fans dont either. If you all see where this story has been linked across the country, you’ll see most of our opposing fans think we should be in the orange and white, and ditch the purple.
by DrB on Jul 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
my take on the uniform combinations
For me, there was nothing better than the white on white uniforms. At that time in Tiger football history, they were an intimidating team. Additionally, teams did not look forward to playing in the Valley and suite up for a 1:00pm EST kickoff. Sadly, that has not been the case in recent years (side bar: I know TV determines the game times these days, but I really liked the 1:00p kickoffs – I am probably in the minority on that one).
Bottom line, when you are good you do not have to rely on outlandish uniform combinations to get you fired up to play or recruit for that matter. Unfortunately, in the last decade the Tigers had to rely on such superficial things as motivation because their coach had no clue how to prepare/motivate his team – all the while, the Wake Forests, NC States and UVAs of the world were passing the Tigers by (referring to the Tommy Boy era, not Dabo)

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