Florida State vs. Clemson Preview
#8 Florida State (39-13, 18-9 ACC) vs. Clemson Tigers (34-19, 15-12 ACC)
They save the big ones for the end it seems. FSU is a very strong hitting club but statistically not terribly better than Clemson. They get the clutch hits that we haven't been getting though, thus the record. They have a strong bullpen at the end that we havent showcased lately, but a weak rotation. If Clemson gets good starting pitching this series will be really good.
The Seminoles enter the series atop the Atlantic Division with a three-game lead over the Tigers. With one win, FSU will secure its fourth consecutive division title and no lower than the #2 seed in the ACC Tournament. Clemson would need to sweep to win the Atlantic, and I dont see any way that happens. Current regional projections have FSU hosting as a #12 seed with Clemson going to Coastal Carolina in the 1st round.
From SEbaseball.com
Florida State's trip to Clemson is getting overshadowed but that is a big series itself. The Seminoles can clinch a host spot and get some momentum for the postseason. Winning at Clemson can be tough and the Seminoles have slipped under the radar a bit the last few weeks. As for Clemson, they really need a series win after dropping two games at Wake Forest last weekend. A season that started with so much promise has deteriorated quickly. Two wins would provide an adrenaline boost entering the conference tournament.
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FSU leads the all-time series at 63-50-1, while the Tigers hold the advantage on their home turf at 25-18. FSU has won five of the last six games in the series. FSU has also won the last two series against Clemson including a sweep of the Tigers in Clemson in 2008. It marked just the second road sweep of Clemson by the Noles and fourth all-time since FSU joined the ACC. The Seminoles hold a 28-26 advantage in ACC regular-season games.
Jack has a 26-36 record against Florida State as Clemson's head coach, including a 14-10 mark at Tiger Field. All 62 of Leggett's games coached against Florida State have been against a top-25 ranked Seminole team.
The Seminoles, who have lost back-to-back games just twice all year and have not lost three games in a row, are 11-5 on opponents' home fields and 8-3 in one-run games.
Last Week:
FSU did not play any midweek games this week. They defeated Stetson last week 6-2, and then took 2 of 3 from NC State in Tallahassee. They lost game 1 5-2, but won game 2 and 3 by scores of 7-5 and 12-9. Their pitching was suspect and they had to come from behind to win the two games. In game 1 they were dominated by Jake Buchanan, NC State's #1 starter.
Clemson faced Presbyterian this week and won 8-2, after dropping 2 of 3 to Wake Forest and basically killing themselves for any shot at the Atlantic. Clemson also lost to Coastal cellar-dwellar Duke 2 of 3 times. When you dont make hay against the shitty teams, you dont deserve the division title. Of note is that Jason Stolz started at SS against PC.
Weekend Starters:
Thursday, 7pm on CSS:
| Throws | Player | Rec | ERA | IP | H | R | ER | BB | Ks |
| LHP | Casey Harman | 6-2 | 3.83 | 80.0 | 74 | 36 | 34 | 22 | 62 |
| LHP | Sean Gilmartin | 6-6 | 4.52 | 77.2 | 84 | 44 | 39 | 21 | 77 |
Friday, 6:30:
| Throws | Player | Rec | ERA | IP | H | R | ER | BB | Ks |
| RHP | Scott Weismann | 5-2 | 5.17 | 69.2 | 77 | 50 | 40 | 23 | 58 |
| LHP | Brian Busch | 4-0 | 3.65 | 56.2 | 45 | 25 | 23 | 22 | 59 |
Busch has a 4.78 ERA in 10 ACC-only appearances, ranking 17th in the league. Weismann has basically tanked since ACC play started.
Saturday, 1pm on a Regional Fox Network:
| Throws | Player | Rec | ERA | IP | H | R | ER | BB | Ks |
| RHP | Alex Frederick? | 4-1 | 3.50 | 43.2 | 44 | 18 | 17 | 20 | 35 |
| Unannounced |
FSU has not lost on Sundays, so maybe its good that this series has been shifted up a day. I still expect Frederick to start here, not Leone after his last few outings. Neither team has announced the starters, it could be John Gast or Scott Sitz for FSU.
Hitting Comparison
| BA | BA-ACC | H | R | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | OBP | SB-ATT | Ks | |
| Clemson | .303 | .292 | 570 | 465 | 112 | 11 | 73 | 423 | 307 | .409 | 89-109 | 369 |
| FSU | .301 | .292 | 529 | 438 | 113 | 17 | 59 | 391 | 327 | .418 | 83-96 | 376 |
FSU's Tyler Holt hits .360 in ACC-only play and McGee hits .356, 10th and 12th in the league respectively. Holt is tied for 2nd in ACC-only Homers, is 3rd in doubles and 1st in runs scored and stolen bases. As you can see below, its a very top-heavy lineup, so its crucial to keep leadoff hitters off base. Florida State is averaging 8.4 runs per game and hitting a .485 slugging percentage and .418 on-base percentage thanks to 327 walks. Florida State is second in the nation in walks, one spot ahead of Clemson.
The Tigers are averaging 8.8 runs per game and hitting a .491 slugging percentage and .409 on-base percentage thanks to the walks and 52 hit-by-pitches.
Otherwise I'd say Clemson has a slight edge here based on overall statistics. We just cant get the hits at the right times.
Prospective lineup based on last weekend.
| Pos | Player | BA | R | H | 2B | HR | RBI | BB |
| CF | Tyler Holt | .350 | 70 | 69 | 18 | 11 | 40 | 45 |
| 3B | Sherman Johnson | .344 | 39 | 63 | 13 | 5 | 41 | 41 |
| LF | Mike McGee | .344 | 50 | 65 | 11 | 11 | 59 | 38 |
| RF | James Ramsey | .287 | 49 | 49 | 11 | 7 | 51 | 39 |
| SS | Stephen Cardullo | .266 | 54 | 53 | 11 | 5 | 39 | 40 |
| 1B | Sean Gilmartin | .421 | 8 | 16 | 5 | 0 | 10 | 0 |
| DH | Stuart Tapley | .308 | 36 | 49 | 10 | 7 | 37 | 34 |
| C | Rafael Lopez | .257 | 25 | 26 | 8 | 1 | 16 | 17 |
| 2B | Devon Travis | .270 | 21 | 27 | 4 | 2 | 17 | 12 |
| 1B | x-Jayce Boyd | .303 | 37 | 53 | 11 | 4 | 27 | 20 |
| LF | x-Ohmed Danesh | .273 | 6 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 |
Brad Miller ranks 3rd in ACC-only hitting at .382(-4-16) with Parker at 6th with .364(-8-23). Miller also has a .525 OBP in ACC games. Parker is putting up a .517 OBP and a .739 slugging percentage overall. Mike Freeman's 18-game hit streak came to an end last weekend. Parker and Schaus are 3rd and 7th in runs scored in ACC play. Schaus leads the ACC with 70 RBI, and Parker is tied with Tony Plagman for the ACC lead in homers.
| Pos | Player | BA | R | H | 2B | HR | RBI | BB |
| 1B | Will Lamb | .304 | 35 | 42 | 6 | 2 | 30 | 21 |
| 2B | Mike Freeman | .324 | 55 | 72 | 18 | 7 | 48 | 28 |
| 3B | John Hinson | .341 | 44 | 62 | 8 | 12 | 59 | 21 |
| RF | Kyle Parker | .378 | 65 | 68 | 11 | 18 | 53 | 46 |
| LF | Jeff Schaus | .316 | 55 | 67 | 10 | 13 | 70 | 25 |
| SS | Brad Miller | .352 | 52 | 63 | 15 | 5 | 28 | 43 |
| CF/DH | Wilson Boyd | .283 | 35 | 52 | 9 | 4 | 37 | 30 |
| C | John Nester | .266 | 17 | 33 | 9 | 2 | 22 | 16 |
| CF | Addison Johnson | .257 | 14 | 18 | 1 | 2 | 13 | 12 |
| 1B | x-Richie Shaffer | .316 | 27 | 31 | 5 | 3 | 16 | 12 |
| DH | x-Chris Epps | .218 | 41 | 32 | 8 | 3 | 14 | 51 |
Team Pitching
| ACC Rank | ERA | W-L | SHO/CBO | Saves | IP | H | R | ER | BB | Ks | |
| 7th | Clemson | 4.64 | 34-19 | 2/2 | 9 | 475.0 | 517 | 292 | 245 | 174 | 358 |
| 4th | FSU | 4.24 | 39-13 | 2/2 | 15 | 462.2 | 444 | 259 | 218 | 208 | 424 |
FSU's biggest problem has been the rotation, their pen is fair. Some guys do well enough out there to be moved into the rotation, and then fall to pieces after a few starts. Its the same problem we have had with Lamb and Leone, for example. 9 different guys have made starts, and only Gilmartin has been starter-only this year. The rest have been moved in and out of the rotation. Brian Busch and Scott Sitz (5-0, 4.41) are more recent additions to the starting rotation, with Geoff Parker (3-0, 4.40) and Hunter Scantling (3-2, 4.24) also getting some duty. Lately based on what I've read in doing the weekend roundups, their pen has been quite good at the end of games with Parker and Everett racking up the lion's share of the innings. They have enabled FSU to come from behind in MANY games this year.
Their closer is Mike McGee, who has a miniscule 0.43 ERA and 9 saves in 21 IP, and has allowed only 7 hits. He's walked a few too many but has struck out 25 in those 21 innings too. Daniel Bennett has been another servicable guy with a 3-1 record and 3.42 ERA in 26.1 IP.
In ACC-only games, FSU ranks 5th in ERA at 5.38. Clemson ranks 7th at 5.60.
I've covered Clemson's pen here ad nauseam. Cruz has been steadily improving and now with Leone sputtering I think he'll have to go back to the Pen (2-1, 4.22). Haselden has held steady at around 4+ and Frederick has become dependable with Firth (2-1, 3.08) as an extra starter. Perhaps Lamb will find his stuff again this weekend to help us out.
I think Clemson can win 2 of these games, but a sweep will surprise me.
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Tyler Holt is 2nd in the conference with an OPS of 1.275 while Parker is 3rd at 1.201, those stats tell you much more than BA does.
FSU Offense > Clemson Offense, conference stats prove that, what you do during midweek games matters very little.
If Sitz doesn’t start on Saturday I would expect to see Scantling over Gast.
Both team defenses are not good.
Both teams steal bases at an extremly successful rate, 80%+ but FSU does a much better job throwing out runners, FSU 42% to Clemson’s 28%.
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
Clemson hardly does shit against midweek teams.
we pretty much suck overall after the Elon series, midweek or weekend.
I dont see the conference-only stats as proof that FSU’s offense is hardly any better than Clemsons. We’re ahead in some categories, youre ahead in some power numbers.
What do you do better?
Slugging 50 points higher is a big deal given all the other stats are the similar
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
higher OBP, slightly better BA, more runs, more hits
more RBI, more walks, less strikeouts in more ABs, more steals. All I see here is that FSU hits for power better. Combined, that doesnt necessarily tell me that FSU’s offense is better than the our own overall.
I’m not saying Clemson is far above, I think these two teams are very close. One just happens to be playing alot better lately than the other.
You really don't understand how baseball states work
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
No I just played the game, i could care less
about obscure stats that some person decides to make up that you need to sit and redefine every time you want to figure them out.
Just because you dont take the time to understand them doesnt make them obscure.
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
It does actually
because most of the stats people fling around today are a result of fantasy baseball geeks and trying to get an edge on somebody there. Half this shit like “line-drive rate” wasnt around 15 years ago.
I dont mind you guys being homers but I call it like I see it, good or bad. I dont think FSU’s offense is better than Clemson’s statistically. I think they’ve got better sluggers, period. Better sluggers does not a better offense make. I don’t see it as much when i look at the lineups. Its pointless to argue about since we’ll know in 3 days anyway.
The so-called "shit" stats you talk about determines who a MLB ball club should spend 100 million dollars
I really value your opinions with regards to football but your ignorance towards baseball is disappointing
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
The numbers, per your post http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/5/20/1480396/florida-state-seminoles-travel-to look pretty close. FSU has a big advantage in slugging % which obviously has a big impact on OPS (OPS is the sum of on base % and slugging %). I would really call this a toss up if judging only #’s
Clemson Sports Analysis and Insight
www.shakinthesouthland.com
We are pretty close except that a higher percentage of our hits go for extra base hit which gives FSUs offense a better chance of scoring more runs
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
You are absolutely correct, and this fact is captured by slugging percentage (total bases per at bat) which then propogates into the OPS calc. Since CU and FSU have pretty close OB% numbers, slugging percentage is captured in two stats. We know the two are almost equal in OB%, so the OPS stat is almost irrelevant as you can look to SLP to capture this data.
Clemson Sports Analysis and Insight
www.shakinthesouthland.com
Thus making FSU the better offensive team
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
by RaysnNoles on May 21, 2010 8:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It gives you better chances to score more runs
but the stats show you havent scored all those runs. Thus FSU is not capitalizing on all those extra base hits. Thus FSU is clearly not the better offensive team based on slugging percentage.
So you think whoever scores the most runs has the better offense?
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
by RaysnNoles on May 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Clemson wins game 1, 9-8
17 hits by the Tigers, and 3 errors. 2 of FSU’s runs against were unearned.
I think we can agree that both of our teams are shit and will be lucky to make it out of a regional
You don't win games with heart, passion and warriorness!
Amazing, whodathunkit? We're this close to a sweep and the division title.
Doesn’t mean we’re going much anywhere in the postseason, though.

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