DePaul's down with OP(p). Why Purnell left and where this leaves the Tigers
It was a good run. Oliver Purnell came in as a man who had built programs at his previous stops. He steadily improved basketball at Clemson and gained a posse in the upstate of South Carolina. Now he has moved along for riches and another challenge at DePaul. One thing that OP did at Clemson that I really am impressed with is getting people to care about basketball. For years, this program was written off by everyone. Now Clemson fans are beginning to demand NCAA tourney wins instead of simply hoping to avoid the ACC play-in game (affectionately known as the Larry Shyatt Invitational).
My thoughts on the matter tend to be less emotional than many, and can understand OP's plight and the decision making process that has evolved his career (and bank account) as of late. Purnell, for better or worse, pulled Tiger basketball from absolutely pathetic to stable and competitive. OP improved this program from barely achieving double digit wins in his first season in T-Town to annual contender, carding 20+ wins for most of his Clemson career. There is no doubt that both parties (CU and OP) benefited from the Old Dominion grad's time in God's Country.
So, you may ask, why is OP leaving. Several items stick out in my mind for Oliver's departure, and these will be explored as we move along after the jump.
Clemson is not a basketball school. I will not sit here and apologize for this, instead I understand this fact and realize that Clemson is, has, and probably always will be a school (and fan base) that values football over all other varsity sports. For most, basketball is a nice side item between the bowl game and Spring practice. It is really difficult for a coach to lead a program from pathetic into one of national respect while participating in one of the nation's toughest conference, only to play second fiddle to another program.
Annually, OP always was the opening act for Tom or Dabo on the booster speaking circuit. There is no question that it has to be aggravating and frustrating not having the spotlight after elevating this program in such a short period of time. Even the great Bear Bryant could not stay at a place he loved because he had to share center stage with another on-campus athletic program and Adolph Rupp. This coupled with much lesser fan support (evident by empty seats in Littlejohn) had to weigh on CU's head man.
Clemson's lack of facilities. OP repeatedly has been asking for facility upgrades even after the LJ renovation in '03. While Clemson has taken initiative to improve its on-campus basketball experience, CU pales in comparison to the upper tier ACC foes. Unless T. Boone Pickens or Warren Buffett wants to pour money into the bball program, Clemson's infrastructure will be middle of the pack (even with the alleged proposed practice facility upgrades). There is no doubt this affects recruiting and ultimately creates another limitation for him and this program. I will go one step further and say that most fans, if pressed, would vote to pour any extra infrastructure cash into Death Valley as opposed to any other campus facility. With capital becoming more and more important and the facilities arms race heating up nationwide, one's crib becomes more and more important in luring top athletes to make runs at championships.
Clemson's administration. The basketball program is far from being the only CU athletic program to be handicapped upstream. While you won't see a big stink or grudge match again (Lennon and the BOT left a lasting impression in early '90), there is definitely a rift here that will not go away. Winning becomes extremely difficult in the extremely competitive arena known as college athletics when academia and the AD have clashing objectives and motives. This is great divide has reared its head by giving compliance and admissions officials more personnel authority than a sport's coaching staff. The administration's lack of support trickles down from large to smaller instances, including items that appear to be no-brainer instant improvements that could be made (lack of and opposition to a true training table is a perfect example).
Talent and Competition. OP's move to Chicago will put him in an extremely large pool of local talent. Purnell has shown that he has the ability to lure highly rated athletes to Clemson, SC. His skills on the recruiting trail should allow him to field an very athletic team quickly in the Midwest. OP will have Big East competition as well as other traditionally strong basketball programs in the Midwest, but the increase in talent pool should allow him to grab more players on a consistent basis. With the smaller population and a basketball crazed state to its immediate North, recruiting basketball players at Clemson can be a tough chore. Reloading any talent that leaves subsequently becomes very tough.
Money. There is no doubt this AD does not want to burn through cash. The Tom Bowden meltdown probably should have gotten TDP fired. Repeatedly hemorrhaging cash on Bowden then not letting him go to Arkansas when we had a chance makes me and many other supporters even more upset. There is no doubt the athletic department is fearful of the backlash if it pisses away more money on a coach that may not produce. OP would never see the kind of money thrown at him by DePaul unless he won an ACC crown. This move made OP tons of money, and anyone who tried to deny such is either naive or just stupid.
How do these items compare to DePaul? I am no expert on DePaul basketball, but do know a little about their program and their geographical region, and will give this one a shot (anyone with more expertise on the subject is welcome to chime in and correct any misstatements I may make).
Basketball School: There is no doubt about it, Chicago is a sports city and DePaul is a basketball school. While most of us don't remember such, the Blue Demons once were a good basketball program with many good teams. Ray Meyer built this program into a solid competitor in his 42 years at the helm from '42 to '84 (including a pair of Final Four appearances and the '45 NIT Championship) and made 21 post season appearances back when this stat actually meant something. His son Joey continued this success by leading DePaul to 7 NCAA and 3 NIT appearances in his 13 seasons at the school.
The citizens of the Windy City enjoy a wide array of pro sports, including the hometown Bulls squad. If this program turns around, you can bet the city will embrace OP and this program and get behind it. There is no doubt that bball at DePaul will become the crown jewel of their athletic department if Purnell can rise this team from its current (poor) level.
Facilities: DePaul's home court is Allstate Arena. Nestled outside of the city, the arena is nothing to write home about. Dr. B brought up the idea of a replacement arena the other night (per comments here), but I don't see this being built anytime soon. Overall you cannot point to facilities as a leaving point, particularly with Clemson on the verge of committing to further facilities upgrades after the big LJ upgrade 6-7 years ago.
Administration: I would assume that the administration is behind this program, particularly with the large amount of cheddar they threw at OP to come to DePaul. They quickly axed local favorite Jerry Wainwright in January and went outside the box in picking up OP as a noted program builder.
Talent/Competition: DePaul plays in the Big East, so the upper tier competition is in line with the ACC and probably a little deeper year in and year out. There is no doubt that Chicago has tons of talent. Purnell is probably gitty about recruiting the city, much less this region. There is really nothing Clemson can do to compete with this local talent/population deficit.
Money: Purnell got a truckload of cash. IMO, DePaul paid well over market value for OP considering his struggles in the postseason.
ESPN did a nice job framing up this story line here.
So, how does this affect Clemson? First off, we will see TDP conduct an extensive search for a coach he can pick up on the cheap. Undoubtedly we will get a youngster who wants a shot at ACC blood. This contract will (and should be, considering the previous experience level) highly incentive laden and probably modeled after Swinney's deal.
I am all for injecting excitement into the program but am fearful that we will not be willing to step up to the plate and get the overall best candidate. This administration has been passive in contract negotiations and in filling positions and I expect more of the same here. OP has gained momentum for this program and we need to go out and find someone who can keep this ball rolling, as regression to early-2000's Clemson basketball is not acceptable.
What are we losing? We are losing a program builder who has brought in talent and an aggressive philosophy. We lost a coach who went out and won 20 games and earned a spot in the Big Dance annually. We lost a coach who was a great ambassador for the university and for the game of basketball. For the record, I was happy with OP's performanceto date even with the shortcomings experienced the past few postseasons. We sucked so bad when I was in school that I am still in shock that we made the ACC tourney championship game a few years ago.
OP's tenure, however, seemed to peter out as the years progressed. Clemson and OP have struggled in the NCAA tournament. Our half court sets were pitiful. Clemson was, at times, a poor fundamental basketball team. All of these signs pose the question, "Is this the top of the mountain for CU basketball under OP?". I will admit that some core fallacies that occurred over the past few years have concerned me. Clemson's inability to develop a half court offense, set proper screens, and shoot from the outside peeved me last season. Recent lack of on-court discipline and perceived complacency by this team makes me question the coach's ability to continually motivate the players year in and year out.
Overall, I think Clemson is losing a great program builder. OP rose the Clemson program from ashes to respectability, and I would like to have seen where we would be two years from now under Purnell. TDP and the powers that be have a tough job moving forward. While many fans are concerned that this program has peaked and success flat-lined over the past couple of years, Clemson historically sucked (for lack of a better word) in round ball and could not consistently contend or win until recently. I sincerely hope to avoid a fallback in recruiting this year and program success in the following years. This will depend upon the course set by TDP and others high up in the athletic department.
What do you think about OP's move? Was this move caused by CU, or was OP simply looking for more cash and another challenge? We would love to hear your opinion(s) and what you think we should and/or will see out of the administration as we move forward?
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I could not be happier that he is gone.
My first reaction was “thank god.. we may actually win a game in the big dance in the next 5 years!!”
Tiger town will ALWAYS be football first. Funny though.. Our baseball team makes the CWS. Our golf team is nationally ranked every year and puts guys on the Tour. Our soccer team sucks now, but has historically been good. So.. yes.. you can have sucess in Clemson even if you don’t play in death valley.
Basketball hit rock bottom at the end of the Larry Shyatt experiment, and any level of success would be an upgrade from LS, so the bar was set pretty low for OP. As a clemson hoops fan.. we know we’re not Duke or UNC.. we know that there are cycles that we will go thru.. Some recruiting classes overperform.. some fall on their faces, but in the last 30 years.. every coach has been able to make 1 run
Bill Foster got us to our only Elite 8
Cliff Ellis got us to a Sweet 16 in ’90 and we were a Tate George miracle (worst moment of my sports life) shot from the Elite 8.
Rick B got us to a sweet 16 in 97 and a double overtime loss to Minnesota and Sam Jacobsen.
OP… should have had post season success in 07,08,09 with the talent we had here. He had his shot, and he couldn’t pull it off. He left because he knows that his run is over.. and what is coming back next year.. is a group of kids with some, but not a ton of talent.. Unfortunately, OP is a program builder, but not a “talent developer” so he bailed.. THANK GOD. The kids coming back next year need a guy that can coach them up.
Do our coaches need a more productive relationship with the AD?
Okay. We all understand one on the main reasons OP left was for another challenge. I now have to ask why didn’t our AD understand OP’s need for such then “challenge” him with creating an elite basketball program at CU! Can’t we dream here? What’s wrong with demanding the best? If Butler can excell in basketball why can’t we? Maybe OP would still be here and the future coach will be here even longer if the AD rolls up his sleaves, stands by his coaches and pushes the administration and student body for more participation in creating elite programs; is that not his job anyway; to relentlessly push for the best possible results for our athletic teams? Especially the ones that can make the school some major cash! Let’s go TD. Your are the engine that need to pull this train to a defined destination; ACC and National Championships! What’s wrong with that challange?
Why cant we clean out the AD of the people
who are causing such low morale?
TDP should be gone before football season.
The issue is....
TDP’s expectations of OP were — Don’t Suck.. Don’t embarass us. OP made 3 straight tourneys.. as far as TDP was concerned – Job well done. Expectations met.
It is very hard to try to put equal focus and equally high expectations on both big money sports.
Florida was definitely the exception to the rule a couple of years ago when they won national titles in FB and BB. Most schools have to make a choice on where to put their $$.
Duke chooses BB, Alabama chooses FB. Clearly.. in Tigertown.. the $$ will always be poured into facilities supporting FB. Any coach that thinks about coming in has to understand that he will start off as 2nd fiddle.. and it’s up to him to get the students and staff excited about what’s going on in Littlejohn.
My feelings on the situation depend on who we hire.
IMO, the right coach could come in, build on what OP started, and get us to another level. I don’t think it necessarily has to be Stevens, but someone with charisma and a good knowledge of X’s and O’s could take our program a long way. As much as I don’t like him, someone with the same positive qualities as Rick Barnes could make us a contender in the ACC much like a MD or Wake.
If we go the Larry Shyatt route and hire someone who has no business being a head coach at this level, then I will really miss OP, because he had us to a point where we were pretty much going to be competitive every year, and there was a realistic hope that we could make a run in the ACC and NCAA tournaments.
Right now, I am pretty nervous because I don’t have a ton of faith in TDP. He hit it out of the park with Dabo, but that was pure luck.
There is something in these Hills!
From OP
What’s the biggest challenge of the Clemson job?
OP: “Definitely recruiting. No doubt. Recruiting is the biggest challenge. Just who you have to compete with every day. Going up against Georgia Tech. Going up against Florida State. Plus the state isn’t blessed with a lot of players so you have to go elsewhere to find guys and compete against teams in those states for those guys. But yea, recruiting is the biggest challenge. And I haven’t even mentioned the teams in North Carolina. The haves in this conference have it.”
What will the new coach be inheriting personnel wise?
OP: “I like the guys coming back and the team for next year. First off they have real good experience. We beat Butler and almost beat Duke, the two teams that played for the National Championship. I think whoever gets the job will be getting some real good players that I think very highly of.”
Historically.....
The last 2 “decent” coaches that left… left the cupboard barren.
In 94 when Cliff Ellis left, he had a team of 7 seniors that left with him. Rick B inherited NOTHING (0 returning starters), but thank god he brought in Greg Buckner with him. Rick then brought in a monster recruiting class in his 2nd year.
in 98 when Rick left, Greg Buckner graduated. Yes, we had Booge Mac coming back, but the only NBA talent that we had between 1995-2010 left with him.
OP leaves with T Book hopefully on his way to an NBA career.
All 3 of these guys knew that they weren’t leaving a ton behind when the left.
I think next year's team could be better than last year's if some gusy step up and play to their potential.
A lineup of D. Booker, Noel Johnson, Demontez Stitt, Jerai Grant, and either Jennings or Smith is not that bad. Basically, Trevor Booker is good, but he did not carry the team.
There is something in these Hills!
The entire offense was "designed" to run thru Booker
Whoever comes in - inherits a team that does not have a post player that can create his own shot. Jerai can play off a good post player and get wide open dunks, but all of his points come from Of rebounds or pass from Book. Who knows what Devin is going to do.. but he didnt show much offense this past year.
The ONLY way this past team got an open shot was from Book passing out of a double team. NO ONE on next year’s team will command a double team. Teams will play us straight up, so guys are going to have to create their owns shots. Other than Demontez.. do you see another player that can get his own shot ?
Coaching
The rumor going around here (I live in Kansas City) in Big 12 country is Jeff Capel from Oklahoma getting the job. I have been thinking about this and if Clemson would like to take a chance why not talk to Danny Manning. Danny has been the assistant coach at Kansas for a long time, is one of the best coaches of big men in basketball, when he shows up to a recruits house he can show the National Championship Ring and talk about the NBA. One of the downsides is that he has no head coaching experience. Also, who knows if he would even consider this job. And when Bill Self leaves KU, he would be the heir apparent and would leave. Who knows, it would be a risk but it could be worth it.
I wouldnt mind the right high profile assistant.
But I have heard Capel coming up in twitter rumors too. I think I would like that hire.
by DrB on Apr 8, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Capel
It’s been reported he wants out at Oklahoma but would favor the Wake job.

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