Clemson defeats FSU 77-67, despite fans disinterest
What an ugly, ugly game. There was no flow to it at all, either from FSU not being able to sink a shot (25% 1st half) at all, or the Referees calling every single touch foul they possibly could.
FSU plays hardly any better offensively than Clemson does, they rely on their NBA-level size to score points. They need better Guard play just like we do. They need Toney Douglas as bad as we need K.C. Rivers. Clemson relies on the inside-out game to Booker to set things up, but neither runs much of an offense. When FSU broke the press, they simply lost their shot. They had several early in the game that were uncontested, and then couldnt get the offensive rebound to get a putback.
I'd call this one a slugfest between two equally terrible, yet defensively dominant, offensive teams. Whoever get the hot hand would win it, and thankfully David Potter continued his return to varsity-level play. It was a game Clemson desperately needed to win, and we got it.
What was really disappointing to me was how many of you stayed home. You would rearrange your schedule for a midweek Duke game? or Boston College? but wouldn't show up for FSU. If you want Littlejohn to be the toughest place to play in the ACC, then you have to at least show up. I completely understand that some of us have other things going on and that some just cannot be there, but you bought the ticket, so give it to someone who can go. Don't sit at home on your ass and watch it on TV when you live 30 minutes from campus. To the college students, you will regret it when not able to get in when youre out of school, when you move far away from Clemson or have a job that requires you to be up at 5am. I know maybe 200 of the 12-13,000 might have an exam, but its not mid-terms yet, and the rest of you need to get to the game. Theres no excuse for the student section to be half-empty. I went to all of them and passed my exams when we royally sucked ass under Shyatt, go to the game.
The school listed the game as a sellout with 10,000 tickets sold, but that number appeared to include approximately 3,000 seats unencumbered by bodies. Somebody said fans don't like to come out when it's cold and at the start of the game, both Clemson and Florida State seemed to be playing as if they didn't want to be out on this Wednesday night, either. (source)
Back to the game:
- Just an outstanding game by David Potter. 19 points, 4/5 from 3, and 7 rebounds. The last two games have been considerably better for him. He says he's trying to become more aggressive.
- Potter has come nearly as far as Tanner Smith has regressed unfortunately. His stats have been on the downtrend for the last month. Since the first Boston College game, he has yet to shoot over 38% FG, and hasn't hit more than one 3 since Georgia Tech. His turnovers have come up to 3 per game since NC State. He also seems to consistently commit one stupid foul far away from the basket, attempt to drive the lane and turn it over horribly, and throw up an airball from the arc once per game. 2 points last night.
- Trevor Booker had to have an IV before the game. 13, 10, and 7 points in his last 3 games. He only took 6 shots last night, and pulled only 4 rebounds. Devin picked up some slack with a career night offensively, putting up 14, but he only pulled 2 rebounds.
- With Stitt still looking tentative on penetration, Andre Young took the initiative on the dribble drive, and put up 19 points with 3 3-pointers and 5 assists to go with 3 steals. He turned it back over 4 times though.
- Clemson shot 29/38, 76% from the FT line. Now if we could've done so well against VT....
- Clemson limited FSU to 37.9% shooting, 6/22 from 3, and won the rebounding battle 38-33. Not a single FSU player had more than 5 boards.
- Turnovers: FSU 15, Clemson 17.
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I was there.
And I have a test to take sometime this week (that I haven’t studied for), had to pack to go home, had a sorority function that night that I couldn’t blow off because I had a date, a project I have to start on for this conference in three weeks, a staff meeting.
It does upset when students don’t show up but they really don’t care that much about basketball unless we’re playing Duke or UNC or we’re good. As someone who had never been to a D-1 football game before last year and who grew up in a Fighting Illini Basketball fan’s house I like college basketball way more than football and I hate that no one goes except for big games. I am angry at all the people who camped out for tickets earlier because they were “real” fans but can’t find the time to show up not even 30 minutes before the game now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I'm sorry
I’m sorry that I’m a Resident Assistant that has certain responsibilities that must be completed. I had to take an online law exam last night and I didn’t have the time to go. I had class until 5:15 as well and the doors open “an hour” before the game which isn’t entirely true. I tried to go to Maryland game on the 31st and I was walking there and when I was halfway there I got a call saying that they already opened the doors and my friends had gone in. There’s no point to be rude and I think that your article was just that. Students have a certain responsibility first and that is to be students. No need to try and call people out.
did you give your ticket to someone else?
did you encourage anyone to go in your place? Did you read the part where I said that those with an exam have a reason not to go?
Tough shit on me being rude.
Whatever man
I’ve been to PLENTY of games and they weren’t just football and basketball games either. Also people are tired of supporting a team that consistently disappoints. Why would people take time to rearrange their schedule to cheer on a team that is sluggish and is not really into the game? You went to school here under Shyatt aka that means we sucked. It was probably really easy for you to get good tickets to the game but it’s harder especially when no one wants to wait outside for hours in 30 degree weather. And I did encourage many people to go actually. I was supposed to go with my girlfriend but we both had a lot of work to go through. Also half of the campus is sick right now if you didn’t know so maybe people didn’t go for that reason. My roommates and my girlfriend’s roommates skipped the game because they are all sick. And yes, you were rude.
No they didnt go because they felt it was unimportant and that we'd lose
all the rest of what you gave me was excuses. If it was Duke or UNC two weeks ago they’d all be there, flu or not. Shit a 6-6 football team would get better turnout if there was an epidemic of malaria on campus.
If Clemson fans dont want the bball team to be good, then just dont show up. A decision to not go is a decision to not support the sport.
You wanna boo then when they suck, thats perfectly your right to do. I’d boo them if they sucked, but you go anyway unless you just can’t get there.
Where are you an RA?
That’s what my staff meeting was. I don’t think anyone was saying it was your fault but that the student body as a whole shouldn’t just be bandwagon fans which is what we look like to the rest of the country right now. Whether or not it’s true is kind of irrelevant because the rest of the ACC thinks it, the NCAA thinks it, and the people who saw that game on ESPN last night think it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Feb 11, 2010 6:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I never let academics get in the way of attending games while I was at Clemson, and
it did not make one bit of difference. I was never asked for a transcript during an interview, although I did have to provide one for grad school. Even then, they did not place a ton of importance on my GPA. Enjoy your time in Tiger Town, go to the games, have a good time, and realize you will probably not get to do all of that stuff once you graduate and move far away from Clemson.
Not everyone had an exam, and we should certainly be able to get 3,000 students out of 15,000 students to show up for a game on a Wednesday night. I agree with the Dr., and don’t think he was being rude at all.
There is something in these Hills!
I agree
I know the importance of going to games and having a good time while you can. I know this more than most of my friends. That doesn’t mean I HAVE to go to a Wednesday night basketball game every time it comes around. I’m perfectly content with getting my work done on Wednesday night so I can go out Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday….
Not to interrupt a slap fight, but...
I really like the way our schedule lays out all of a sudden.
We should have a good shot to beat Miami, and UVA will be playing four games (three on the road) in eight days. I have a hard time believing we’ll win @Wake, but we could steal one from either Maryland or FSU on the road. We nearly beat GT on the road. I like our chances at home. Still another toss-up, but we could win with a decent night of shooting.
I agree with you, but I think a lot depends on how quickly Stitt gets back to 100%.
He is the difference between going to the dance or going to the NIT. Miami, UVA, GT at home, and MD and FSU are all very winnable with Stitt at 100%, but without him, I think we are lucky to take 2 of the 3 at home, and will not win any on the road.
There is something in these Hills!
by Tigerplowboy on Feb 11, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Last 4 games are tough
best case scenario is 2-2 i think
that means with our losses to weak RPI teams like VT and BC, the next 2 are essentially must-wins.
I think the beef is with the student body, in general, and not you in particular.
Just saying that if we can’t get 20% of the students to show up for an ACC game, then that does not speak well of the student body, overall. Sure there are some people who just can’t, go, but most should be able to make it, especially when it is easy to get a ticket. Also, college students have a heck of a lot more time than they realize, and could set aside time to go to the game.
There is something in these Hills!
I read it as a challenge to the student body
This article obviously wasn’t written to call out one individual, so I don’t think it should be taken that way. It is an overall indictment of the entire student body that people didn’t show up for a must win game.
As much as I hate it... we're still a football first school
I got to Tigertown in 94 in Rick Barnes’ first season. I played basketball my entire life and was thrilled to be able to attend ACC games. The 1st game my freshman year i walked up 30 min before tipoff and got a seat right behind our bench. I think about 200 students showed up. It took a couple of years, but by my junior year.. i had to camp out for tickets for 3 days.
The student section should be packed for every single ACC game.. ZERO excuses. You know why ?? we dont suck right now.. we’re not great, but we have a chance to go 7-1 at home this year. That’s a team that you HAVE to get out and support. We lost 3 starters from last year.. did you really think this was a team that would go 12-4 in conference ?? Were your expectations that unrealistically high ?? We start Tanner Smith and David Potter. Sadly, we are an immature emotionally team that thrives on momentum and crowd emotion.. if you’re not there.. i don’t think they can hear you in your dorm rooms. This team needs you. Get your Asses to Littlejohn while you still can !!!

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