Postgame Impression: Our Offensive Staff is an Abortion
I dont even know what to say anymore. What do you expect us to say after that garbage? I can barely control my rage enough to type legibly. Our offense has looked like complete dogshit since Auburn. If you think that our WRs and OL are well coached you are full of it. I had to hear the Pony tell me that Brad Scott was a great coach tonight, and his dumbass even questioned why we threw the ball in the red zone. YES EVEN THE PONY KNOWS DABO IS DUMB.
Everybody wants to fire someone tonight, and you should. What we saw from this offensive staff in playcalling was a complete cluster. Clemson's Defense played their ass off all night against a very talented offense. I could not imagine us playing as well on D as we did against them. Our DLine completely dominated them for 3.5 quarters of this ballgame, which is unarguable from anyone, and the only reason why they moved the ball at the end was because they decided to run to the perimeter and away from the DL. So while neither team really deserved to win this game, our D definitely didn't deserve to lose it. I give great credit to Kevin Steele and the entire defensive staff and all the players on defense for playing their best tonight.
Florida State gave Clemson every single opportunity to take this game and completely blow it open. FSU's defense did not play well at all except in deep coverage, but I doubt we even called 5 plays that were designed to go deep. They did not tackle well. They did not control gaps well. They committed many stupid penalties. They backed up in Cover 3 and made us execute, and just like BC, it worked. They waited for our playcallers to F the game up themselves, and didn't really have to do anything. A monkey probably could've had them down by 14 at the half.
And the weird thing is that our offense actually moved the ball pretty well all night. We stifled the best pass rush in the NCAA. We ran the ball really well because we pretty much blew them off the ball in man block situations (to clarify, Brad's OL did play well, but when Craig James said we have a great OL coach, i lost it). We took what they gave us most of the time, and even The Skirt got himself off my shit list (for one week, lets not get crazy). FSU gave us the run, and even when they put 9 in the box they couldn't stop it (see JH's TD), and we didn't take it when we could've. We get down by 3 with 8 minutes left, and of course we must abandon the run game. We get in the red zone, when Harper ran us into it, and then must throw with zero touch. It doesn't make any sense to me. Using every bit of football knowledge I have, I cannot see what this staff is thinking when they make these calls. They can't see the forest for the trees.
Kyle Parker had his good moments and his bad ones. He still made some bonehead throws, and still doesnt have touch, but he shouldnt throw the ball 44 times in a football game, especially not when you have 152 on the ground. I don't understand what would possess anyone to want to throw the ball 44 times when your RB can beat them by himself, particularly in the red zone. Every time we've thrown the ball over 40 times its ended up with a Loss, and if we'd have made smarter playcalls tonight's game would not have been one.
I don't know what else to say really. I can only throw my hands up. Only you can make things happen. When you don't win a championship for 20 years, its not just your Head Coach's fault. Dabo Swinney and his offensive clusterfuck of a staff is on the hook for this particular loss, and those who just want Napier fired are not thinking clearly because Dabo is interjecting in this playcalling, but its the people above him that gave him the job that are really to blame. Tommy West got a job he should not have gotten. Dabo Swinney has been given a job he's also not ready for, so the people that gave it to him are the ones you need to blame. He might not be doing the best with what he has, but he shouldn't have this job in the first place. Terry Don Phillips should be fired tomorrow, and not just because of his football decisions.
I can't do anything here, I'm just a blogger. All I do is write. You must do things yourself. You must send those letters to the Board, but the only way to truly get anyone's attention in this world is to hold that $$$$. You must get their attention by not sending them the money. If you know what company those Board members run, then boycott it. I guarantee you'll get their attention. Whatever you have to do to get their attention must be done, because if you don't, you shouldn't bitch when SC passes your athletic program.
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Napier has to be metally retarded! REDZONE OFFENSE
I got one thing to say….Clemson’s OC is Mentally RETARDED! Seriously, Clemson runs it down FSU’s throat and they get inside the ten and he goes to five wides and an empty backfield and goes 3 and out not one running play not one + where do they find these kickers at the Picken’s flee market.(ps when you do that the defense is not shaking in their boots that parker is going to run they know you have to pass…but why even do that it’s retarded you can’t limit your options when you don’t have too). Coach Swinney you wanna know why you didn’t win by 30…look at the looser you have calling your plays. Even on that interception it was 2 and goal from the 4, I believe……Harper average 5 ypc……… It really is a shame that the ACC could have had a truly dominate team but the coach it too good of a guy to fire someone who stinks at his job. I hate hearing oh miss opportunities….how about line up in the power eye and give manageable opps. FIRE NAPIER OR YOUR GOING TO LOOSE YOUR JOB DABO. I’m tired of hearing man good effort missed opp. come on now! Go get an equal to Kevin Steele and you won’t wind-up working tables at Denny’s…We might actually have a championship team. BN the OC got bailed out all last by Spiller that is obvious to us all now. Why did you hire this guy….go get Mark Whimple or someone who know’s how to win or we will fire you and go get Mike Leach
by Stephen Presley on Nov 14, 2010 4:30 AM EST reply actions
I believe that Napier prefers to run from under center
and that Dabo prefers to throw out of the shotgun. You are blaming Napier, but your anger needs to be directed at the head coach of this pathetic football team.
Last Night
I felt every time we had a good drive going with the ground game Dabo put his headset on and said “hey do you guys mind if I call this next play? It’s gonna be out the spread, put Kyle in shotgun look and send like 5 Wide outs out there cause they’ll never think about us passing since we been running so good. I need Ashe and Dye! Where are Ashe and Dye!”
by Clemson Caniac on Nov 14, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Haha. Love it.
2 INTs deep in their territory and 2 missed field goals won’t get you too many W’s. Parker has shown the ability to make bad mistakes in the redzone. That would lead me to believe you would rely on your ground game that got you down the field in the first place.
I think that's Dabo inserting his own play calling there. But we have no proof. I wish Napier would
have the balls to come out and say that its dabo overriding his playcalling in those instances since Napier is the one taking all the criticism.
Fed Up
Carolina will play for the SEC championship and Clemson will finish 4th in the Atlantic division in the ACC. Heads need to roll….and not just Dabo’s. If TDP is still AD come Jan.1st, I’m going to seriously consider giving up on Clemson athletics. And some may say “well you’re not a real fan” and to that I say “no, those who continue to support this clusterfuck aren’t real fans”.
Those people care about socializing, not the team
Those are the people that organize parties around the game, tailgate into the 1st and 3rd quarter, and ask people in front of them to sit down.
A friend of mine shared with me a very sobering statistic earlier this week.
We are 1 of of only 10 teams since 1992 that have not accomplished at least 1 of the following things:
1. Won the conference
2. Had a 10 win season
3. Played in a BCS bowl game
When you consider who the other 9 schools are, there is no other way to describe our program but EMBARRASSING.
You are right about that, and South Carolina looks like they too would like to have their name removed.
Currently, the 10 teams on this disgraceful list are:
1. Clemson
2. South Carolina
3. Oklahoma State
4. Baylor
5. Duke
6. Vanderbilt
7. Kentucky
8. Indiana
9. Iowa State
10. South Florida
It’s really not even fair to include South Florida due to the fact they have only had a football program since 1997. On top of that, they’ve only been in the Big East since 2005. So, this list should probably only consist of 9 programs currently and could potentially be cut to 7 schools by the end of this season. I really can’t think of a better way to describe the state of our program but embarrassing.
I don't understand the anger at the OL
Early in the post you say our OL was horrible and our OL coaching is horrible, then later you say we blew FSU off the ball and we shut down their pass rush… Doesn’t make much sense.
Other than that you are right on the money. Our offensive staff is horrible, starting with Dabo. Why do we move the ball right down the field, then get down tot he 6 yard line and line up in the gun and start running zone reads and other dumbass plays? It’s really just mind-boggling. You’re right, a monkey throwing darts could have called a better game.
No I don't get the extreme praise of Brad Scott, as if he's a great coach
because he’s not by any definition of the word.
But they did play very well all night.
Our Dline is Soph, Soph, Soph, Freshman,Freshman, Freshman
Since white got hurt. We’ve been blown off in 11 straight quarters.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 14, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Tough loss for Clemson
You out-gained us and missed 2 FGs. I was most impressed with your OL, who gave Parker all the protection he needed. But I do think FSU’s DL (or possibly even front 7) are over-rated because of the competition we’ve played. IMO Parker’s last INT in the 4th that set up FSU’s TD was a big momentum swing in Doak. Rivalry night games are tough.
Your 2011 recruiting is incredible; make the necessary coaching changes and you’ll be on your way back up.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
That's what makes this so frustrating
We are bring in the talent but not seeing the results.
And Dabo’s youthful energy on the sidelines and press conference fluff makes me want to slit my wrists.
I think this is the last year for the next 2-3 that Clemson will have more talent than FSU.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 14, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think we've EVER had better talent according to Rivals, Scout, Lemming
…that includes the late 80s matchups as well
I covered it this summer and found that CU does
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/5/12/1466893/future-of-the-programs-fsu-v
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Interesting. It's clear that you guys do very good and detailed work over there.
Nice article. However, it’s easy to be skeptical because Clemson has had only one class (’07) rated higher than FSU this decade.
I did see where you use the ‘07 class as 50% of your argument that CU has been out-recruiting FSU and then show that when you add in CU’s 12 man ’09 class, FSU gains the advantage. Obviously 50% of either team is not currently reflected by the 2007 class but, I understand the point you were making about ’11.
I also understand that you are using enrolled numbers instead of Rivals/Scout rankings. I think, in that case, you could even go a step further.
I’d be very interested in seeing the same comparison done by combining both the players that have been in the program for at least two years and including all players listed in the two-deep. The logic, of course, is that attrition doesn’t just happen before enrollment (especially with us), many that enroll never see the two-deep, walk-ons happen (especially with us), and you only factor in the lower classmen that contribute early.
I really like how you went position by position for 2011. Nice work. Very informative.
This was the real shocking statement to me though:
“It’s undeniable that the Tigers had the talent edge over the ’Noles during the latter half of the “lost decade”, but if FSU again out-recruits Clemson this time, that edge could swing sharply back to Florida State."
Does this imply that we have really been out-recruiting FSU for years? I honestly think most football pundits and fans would be beyond shocked to hear that. I mean, Furman laughed at our 2003 class. In 2004, we inked 19 two stars while FSU’s class was ranked #3 by Rivals (followed by FSU’s top 5 classes in ‘05 and ’06). We couldn’t even get the talent that FSU was recruiting to take a phone call 6 years ago (pre-Spiller).
Right now, our recruiting is as close to FSU’s as it has been in twenty years. I do agree with you that it will not remain close if FSU wins the Atlantic division this year and next year.
Again, I mean absolutely no disrespect and think you guys do a great job. I just disagree with your conclusion that Clemson out-recruited FSU and that was the reason we won those games.
Could be true
but the talent gap won’t be enormous. Clemson is bring in a hell of a class this year as well.
Out-gained, yes
But FSU out-gained CU 5.6-4.9 per play.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 14, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
congratulations
for keeping up with our juggernaut of an offense.
Not a big fan of yards per play.
FSU’s yards per play was hurt last week when they got to start on the 1 yard line after UNC snapped it over the punter’s head. Why penalize the offense when they could only go 1 yard?
I use the eyeball test, and yesterday Clemson’s offense moved the ball better than FSU’s offense.
But it does help to account for red zone as well.
Yards/Play usually tells the story I’ve found
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It's a pretty good indicator
and much better indicator than points scored, obviously. I think you guys have done it over at TN, but I like yards gained per yards possible.
Yes agreed
Just tougher to calculate
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Wow. Clemson dominated
FSU until the staff decided that we need to throw the ball inside the 20. The play call that ended up being intercepted in the EZ (2nd down from the 6is hard to figure.); is hard to figure. I am sure the OL was real happy when that play came in. I think we could have made 6 yds on 3 running plays. Have we ever tried, other than against Maryland? Oh, yea we scored. Disapointing. Players and fans deserve better.
Just a little in-game self-scouting
When the game’s on the line, we have to make sure we’re all self scouted up and doing unpredictable things. All good OC’s have a “Wheel of Playcalling” in the booth just for when the season is on the line. It’s important to go ahead and break those tendencies in the most irrational way possible at the most inopportune time.

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